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Ramalingam Kalirajan has over 23 years of experience in mutual funds and financial planning.
He has an MBA in finance from the University of Madras and is a certified financial planner.
He is the director and chief financial planner at Holistic Investment, a Chennai-based firm that offers financial planning and wealth management advice.... more
Asked by Anonymous - Oct 31, 2023Hindi
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I had PF account under UAN number A1 in organisation A. I switched to organisation B and they created UAN B1. I raised transfer request from A1 to B1. Organisation A1 sent me annexure K saying pf is transferred. I then sent this to pf office saying plz send my amount to organisation B1. They say amount is transferred. B1 says they never received the amount. I raised this to pf department and now I am revolving between the two since 3 years. Now my UAN A1 shows no amount but UAN B1 does not show amount credited. How do I tackle this and get my money back?

Ans: Resolving PF Transfer Issues: A Step-by-Step Guide
Dealing with PF transfer issues can be frustrating, but with patience and persistence, we can work towards resolving the situation. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you tackle this challenge effectively.

Assessing the Situation
Review Documentation

Verify all documents related to the PF transfer, including Annexure K and communication with both organizations and the PF office.
Check UAN Portal

Log in to the UAN portal to verify the status of both UAN A1 and UAN B1.
Contacting Concerned Parties
Organization A1

Reach out to organization A1 and request detailed information regarding the PF transfer status from their end.
Organization B1

Similarly, contact organization B1 and inquire about any updates or correspondence received regarding the PF transfer.
PF Office

Follow up with the PF office regarding the status of the transfer. Provide them with all relevant documents and communication details for their reference.
Escalating the Issue
Grievance Redressal Mechanism

If you encounter challenges in resolving the issue through regular channels, consider escalating the matter through the PF grievance redressal mechanism.
Online Grievance Portal

Lodge a formal complaint through the online grievance portal provided by the Employees' Provident Fund Organization (EPFO). Provide comprehensive details of the issue and attach relevant documents for reference.
Seeking Legal Assistance
Consulting Legal Experts

If the issue remains unresolved despite your efforts, consider seeking assistance from legal experts specializing in PF matters. They can provide valuable insights and guidance on further courses of action.
Legal Recourse

Explore the possibility of taking legal recourse to address the issue, especially if there are discrepancies or delays beyond reasonable timelines.
Maintaining Communication
Regular Follow-Ups

Maintain regular communication with all relevant parties involved in the PF transfer process. Follow up via email, phone calls, or in-person meetings to ensure continuous progress.
Documenting Communication

Keep detailed records of all communication exchanges, including dates, content, and outcomes. These records serve as crucial evidence in case of any disputes or escalations.
Ensuring Resolution
Persistence

Stay persistent and determined in your efforts to resolve the issue. Persistence often pays off when dealing with complex administrative processes.
Patience

While navigating through the resolution process, practice patience and remain optimistic about achieving a favorable outcome. These situations may take time to resolve, but perseverance is key.
Conclusion
Resolving PF transfer issues requires a systematic approach, effective communication, and perseverance. By following the steps outlined above and seeking appropriate assistance when needed, you can navigate through the challenges and eventually secure the transfer of your PF amount successfully.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in
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Sir, we had a dispute in our ancestral property we approached the court and the verdict said we are entitled to a portion of the property The dispute was the land was sold without our knowledge etc., after getting the verdict we got patta, registration in our name. Now we are planning to sell the land, a lawyer said get a ratification deed, I don't know what it is and also weather it is needed or not. The lawyer called us and said the the other party who has purchased the land illegally is not agreeing to sign and is asking money to settle the matter as he has purchased the land. Even after receiving court orders this kind of dodging is happening. The amount of money he is asking is senseless, even if I sell the land I wouldn't get that much amount, I am unable to put in writing many other problems kindly advise what next steps to take. also let me know what are all the documents to have as a owner. Thank you
Ans: You have taken rightful steps. Court verdict is in your favour. That shows your legal ground is strong.

But still, the other party is asking for money. That too, an unfair amount. You also mentioned a lawyer suggested getting a ratification deed. Let us try to understand the full situation and assess all possible options. We will also cover what documents are needed to prove your ownership.

This reply gives you a 360-degree view. It will help you make a sound and confident decision.

Understanding Your Current Legal Standing
You said the land was sold without your knowledge. That makes the original sale illegal. The court has agreed with you. That is a key win for you.

You now have patta and registration in your name. These are strong documents. They show you have legal title.

Based on this, you are now the legal owner. That means you have the full right to sell the land. But the buyer must also be confident. So legal clarity is very important.

What Is a Ratification Deed?
A ratification deed is a It confirms a past act done without proper authority. The current party gives approval to that act.

In your case, it seems the buyer who bought the land earlier is being asked to “ratify” that sale. That is, to agree that you are the rightful owner now.

This is not a mandatory document by law. But it is sometimes used to make the title stronger. Some buyers or their banks ask for it.

However, since the court has already ruled in your favour, you may not legally need it. You already have the stronger claim.

Why Is the Buyer Still Causing Issues?
The person who bought the land earlier might feel he lost money. He may think the sale to him was legal. But since the court disagreed, he now holds no right.

His demand for money is unjust. It is a pressure tactic. He is trying to recover his loss by troubling you.

You are not legally required to pay him. He has no power to stop your sale.

Assessing Options Now
You can now evaluate your next steps from three angles – legal, practical, and financial.

Legal Options
Talk to your lawyer again. Ask: is a ratification deed mandatory in your case?

Get a written legal opinion. This should clearly mention your rights and position.

File a complaint if the other party is threatening you or asking money.

Send a legal notice through your lawyer to that person. Mention that he has no right now.

Practical Options
Try selling to a buyer who trusts the court order. Show them all documents.

Explain clearly that title is clean. Show the judgment, patta, and registration.

Use a reputed real estate lawyer for the sale. That gives buyers more confidence.

Financial Assessment
Do not agree to pay huge amounts. It may cause loss for you.

If needed, consider a small settlement. But only after full legal review. And only if it makes the sale smooth and quick.

Ask yourself: Even if I settle, will the person agree to give in writing? If not, don’t pay.

Must-Have Documents to Sell the Land
As a rightful owner, you must hold the following papers:

Patta in your name (this is land ownership proof)

Registered sale deed or title deed (issued after the court judgment)

Copy of the court verdict

Encumbrance Certificate (EC) (shows your name as the current legal holder)

Legal heir certificate, if you inherited the land

Property tax receipts in your name

Aadhar and PAN card copies

Suggested Steps to Make Sale Smooth
Get a detailed Title Certificate from a lawyer. It should mention the court case and outcome.

Keep a summary note ready. It should explain how you became owner.

Ensure name match across all your documents.

Keep a certified copy of court order with you at all times.

Use a reputed property consultant or broker only if needed. Prefer buyers who are local and familiar with such cases.

Emotional and Mental Pressure
You also mentioned you are facing many other issues. That is understandable. Land disputes take a heavy toll on health and peace of mind.

Please do not worry. You already have legal strength.

You have cleared a big milestone by getting the court’s support.

Don’t allow fear or threats to stop you.

Stay strong. Keep family informed. Talk regularly with your lawyer.

How Certified Financial Planner Can Help
A Certified Financial Planner (CFP) can guide you better with your sale proceeds.

If you plan to sell, prepare a written cash flow plan.

Think about your family’s short-term and long-term needs.

Keep emergency funds aside. Don’t invest all money at once.

Mutual funds managed by professional advisors can be considered. They offer long-term wealth building.

What Not To Do
Do not deal in cash. Always use cheque or bank transfer.

Do not sign any paper without lawyer check.

Do not get emotionally disturbed by their false threats.

Do not delay your next steps due to confusion or fear.

Finally
You have shown good courage. You followed the legal process. You now own the land as per law.

The other party is only trying to misuse your fear. Do not fall for it.

If the buyer still refuses to cooperate, avoid them. Choose another buyer.

If a ratification deed is insisted by your new buyer, ask your lawyer: Is it really needed?

If not needed, move ahead without it.

If needed, try again to convince the other person. If they demand unreasonable money, don’t agree.

Let your lawyer send notice. You can also explore police help if needed.

Always work with proper documents. Keep everything in writing.

Keep calm and move forward. With legal support and proper documents, you will win.

If you need help with managing the money after sale, we can help with a long-term financial plan.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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