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Victor Question by Victor on Jan 04, 2025Hindi
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Sir, i had left a company in 2013 without resigning. There was no UAN at that time. Then i joined another company and received UAN number. In 2024 in the epfo portal i linked the epf of the company that i left in 2013 using aadhaar and brought it under my UAN number, but the exit date is blank. All other details are available like date of joining, balance in my account etc. I tried entering the exit date with all the details, but a comment pops up that only the company can enter the exit date as there is no records online. My company will not do it as i had left without informing. I am not working now. I am 54 years old, can i close my epfo account and withdraw the amount in my account, or will i automatically get all the amount on me reaching 58 years. Can i please be guided on how i can withdraw the amount without exit date

Ans: Hello;

The exit date updation is essential before withdrawal.

You may visit the assigned EPFO office with supporting documents and discuss with concerned officers for satisfactory resolution.

Else you may file a grievance with EPFiGMS portal regarding the problem faced by you pertaining to the exit date updation.

You may also approach them on social media, if needed.

Best wishes;
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I have resigned from my company. Please advise about how I can withdraw my PF amount. The company from which I resigned has given me an inactive UAN? How do I solve my problem?
Ans: To withdraw your Provident Fund (PF) amount, follow these steps:

Step 1: Activate Your UAN

1. Visit the EPFO Member Portal:

• Go to EPFO Member Portal.

2. Activate UAN:

• Click on “Activate UAN”
• Enter your UAN, Member ID, Aadhaar, PAN, Name, Date of Birth, Mobile Number, and Email ID.
• Click on “Get Authorisation PIN” and enter the PIN received on your mobile to activate your UAN.

Step 2: Check Your PF Balance

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• Use your UAN and password to log in.

2. View Passbook:

• Go to the “View Passbook” section to check your PF balance.

Step 3: Update KYC Details

1. Update KYC Information:

• In the UAN portal, go to “Manage” > “KYC”.
• Update your Aadhaar, PAN, Bank details, and other KYC information.
• Ensure your KYC details are verified by your employer.

Step 4: Submit Withdrawal Claim

1. Online Withdrawal:

• Once your KYC details are updated and verified, go to “Online Services” > “Claim (Form-31, 19 & 10C)”.
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2. Offline Withdrawal (if Online isn't possible):

• Download Form 19 (for PF withdrawal) and Form 10C (for pension withdrawal) from the EPFO website.
• Fill out the forms and attach necessary documents (Aadhaar, PAN, cancelled cheque, etc.).
• Submit the forms to the regional EPFO office or through your previous employer.

Troubleshooting Inactive UAN Issues

1. Contact EPFO:

• If your UAN is inactive, contact EPFO through their helpline number or email.
• You can also visit the nearest EPFO office for assistance.

2. Employer Assistance:

• Contact your previous employer’s HR department to activate your UAN and update your details.

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Is the ULIP’s fund performance aligned with your expectations?

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Review Fund Performance: Regularly assess the returns generated by your ULIP. Compare them with benchmark indices and mutual funds.

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Diversify Investments: Spread your investments across equity, balanced, and debt funds for optimal risk management.

Leverage Tax Benefits: Plan withdrawals strategically to minimise tax liabilities under the new mutual fund taxation rules.

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ULIPs offer tax-free maturity proceeds under Section 10(10D) if annual premiums do not exceed Rs. 2,50,000.

Mutual funds are subject to the following tax rules:

Equity mutual funds: Gains above Rs. 1.25 lakh are taxed at 12.5%.
Short-term gains on equity funds are taxed at 20%.
Debt mutual funds are taxed as per your income tax slab.
Consider these rules when deciding between ULIPs and mutual funds.

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Annual premium payments are cost-effective if cash flow permits.

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Diversify investments and consult a Certified Financial Planner for personalised advice.

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Starting with Rs. 2000 ensures affordability and consistency. Flexibility to increase contributions is an added benefit.

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A 10-year SIP can generate substantial wealth. Equity-based funds generally outperform other investments over the long term.

Expected Returns from Your SIP
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Debt funds yield lower returns, around 6-8%. These funds are safer but less suitable for long-term goals.

Balanced funds blend equity and debt. They balance risk and return, yielding 8-10% annually.

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Market Conditions
Equity market performance directly impacts returns. Long-term investments reduce the risk of short-term volatility.

Tax Implications
Equity fund gains above Rs. 1.25 lakh attract 12.5% tax. Short-term gains are taxed at 20%. Understanding taxation helps in planning redemptions.

Expense Ratios
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Disadvantages of Index Funds
Index funds lack flexibility. They mimic indices and cannot capitalise on market opportunities.

They do not protect against downside risk during market crashes. Actively managed funds can adjust to such scenarios.

Active funds offer higher returns when managed well. Professional management adds value to your investment.

Why Regular Funds with CFP Guidance?
Direct funds save costs but lack personalised advice. A Certified Financial Planner offers tailored strategies for your goals.

Regular funds through an MFD with CFP credentials ensure professional monitoring. They also simplify documentation and compliance.

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Define your financial goal for this SIP. Is it for wealth creation, education, or retirement?

Assess Risk Appetite
Choose funds aligning with your comfort level. Equity funds are ideal for higher returns but come with risks.

Review Performance
Select funds with consistent track records over five to ten years.

Diversify Investments
Consider investing in different categories for balanced risk and returns.

Review Periodically
Assess performance annually. Switch funds if they consistently underperform.

Insights on SIP Taxation
Gains on equity mutual funds held for over a year qualify as LTCG. Only gains above Rs. 1.25 lakh are taxed at 12.5%.

Debt fund gains are taxed as per your slab rate.

Consider these rules while planning withdrawals. Tax-efficient withdrawals maximise returns.

SIP Advantages Over Other Investments
SIPs outperform fixed deposits and traditional insurance plans. They offer better liquidity and inflation-beating returns.

Real estate requires significant upfront capital and involves illiquidity. SIPs are more flexible and accessible.

Gold investments lack the potential for high returns compared to equity funds.

Common Mistakes to Avoid
Delaying Investments
Starting early maximises compounding benefits.

Stopping SIPs During Market Lows
Continue investments even during market downturns. They offer opportunities to buy units at lower prices.

Ignoring Goal Alignment
Match your SIPs with specific financial goals.

Final Insights
Investing Rs. 2000 per month for 10 years through SIPs is a smart choice. It can help you achieve long-term goals and build wealth steadily.

Focus on selecting funds aligned with your objectives. Regularly review and adjust your portfolio for optimal performance.

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