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Insurance, Stocks, MF, PF Expert - Answered on Oct 15, 2024

Milind Vadjikar is an independent MF distributor registered with Association of Mutual Funds in India (AMFI) and a retirement financial planning advisor registered with Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority (PFRDA).
He has a mechanical engineering degree from Government Engineering College, Sambhajinagar, and an MBA in international business from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune.
With over 16 years of experience in stock investments, and over six year experience in investment guidance and support, he believes that balanced asset allocation and goal-focused disciplined investing is the key to achieving investor goals.... more
Anil Question by Anil on Oct 15, 2024Hindi
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Hello Sir, Greetings. My name is Anil. I quit my last job in Sept 2021 and did not withdraw my PF amount till today. I will complete my 60 years in the next year. I have a continuous service af more than 22 years all PF account have transferred time to time when I joined the new organization. Please let me know whether I should continue to keep my PF balance in PF account and will I get the interest every year? Also please let me know when should I start with my PF pension? Thanks in advance for your guidance

Ans: Hello;

You should withdraw your EPF corpus immediately and invest elsewhere.

After 3 continuous years of no contribution, except interest, the EPF account becomes inoperative.

If you have opted for deferred pension you may receive EPS pension after completing 60 years of age.
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1. Merge all your previous PF accounts. This can be done online through the EPFO website or at any EPFO office.
2. Fill the Composite Claim Form (Aadhaar based) and submit it to your previous employer.
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•Copy of your Aadhaar card.
•Copy of your PAN card.
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•Cancelled cheque from your bank account.

4. Your previous employer will verify the details and submit the form to the EPFO.
5. The EPFO will process your claim and transfer the EPF amount to your bank account.

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Planning for pension benefits from your EPF account after retirement requires careful consideration and proactive steps. Let's outline a strategy to ensure you receive pension benefits after turning 60.

Understanding EPF Pension Eligibility
Assessing Eligibility Criteria

Confirm eligibility for EPF pension benefits by ensuring you have completed at least 10 years of eligible service, which you have accomplished.
Verifying EPF Account Details

Verify that your EPF account reflects your entire service duration accurately, including the period from March 2011 to September 2021.
Retaining EPF Account for Pension Benefits
Maintaining EPF Account

Avoid withdrawing your EPF amount upon resignation to retain eligibility for pension benefits.
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Ensuring Continuous Contributions

If you join another organization, ensure that your new employer continues contributing to your EPF account, maintaining the continuity of your EPF membership.
Applying for Pension Benefits
Submitting Pension Application

Upon reaching the age of 60, submit an application for pension benefits to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization (EPFO).
Provide necessary documents, such as identity proof, EPF account details, and pension application form, as per EPFO guidelines.
Completing Formalities

Fulfill any additional formalities required by EPFO, such as verification of service details and submission of supporting documents.
Seeking Professional Advice
Consulting Certified Financial Planner (CFP)

Seek guidance from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) specializing in EPF matters to ensure compliance with EPF regulations and optimize pension benefits.
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Regular Monitoring
Monitoring EPF Account

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Following Up with EPFO

Follow up with EPFO authorities regarding the status of your pension application and address any delays or discrepancies promptly.
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Ans: Your situation is quite common among professionals who have relocated abroad. It's great that you are considering your options wisely. Let's explore your options and see what might work best for you.

Understanding Your Provident Fund (PF)
Your Provident Fund (PF) is a long-term savings scheme to provide benefits during retirement. You have a significant amount accumulated from your years of service in India.

Keeping Money in PF Until Retirement
Leaving your money in the PF account until retirement has certain advantages.

Benefits of Keeping Money in PF
Safety and Security: PF is a government-backed scheme, offering high security.

Tax-Free Interest: Interest earned on PF is generally tax-free until withdrawal.

Regular Pension: Upon retirement, you will receive a regular pension from the Employees’ Pension Scheme (EPS).

Potential Drawbacks
Lower Liquidity: Funds are locked in until you reach retirement age, limiting access.

Inflation Impact: The fixed interest rate may not always keep pace with inflation.

Withdrawing PF and Investing Elsewhere
Alternatively, you can withdraw your PF and invest it in other instruments like Fixed Deposits (FD) or Mutual Funds (MF).

Benefits of Withdrawing and Investing
Higher Returns Potential: Mutual funds, especially equity funds, have the potential for higher returns.

Diversification: Investing in different instruments can spread and reduce risk.

Liquidity: Investments in mutual funds and FDs are more liquid, allowing easier access to funds.

Risks to Consider
Market Volatility: Equity mutual funds can be volatile and subject to market risks.

Tax Implications: Withdrawals from PF before 5 years of continuous service are taxable.

Evaluating Fixed Deposits (FD)
Fixed Deposits (FD) are a safe investment option but have their own pros and cons.

Benefits of FDs
Safety: FDs are low-risk and provide guaranteed returns.

Fixed Interest: You know exactly how much interest you will earn over the term.

Drawbacks of FDs
Lower Returns: FDs typically offer lower returns compared to equity mutual funds.

Taxable Interest: Interest earned on FDs is taxable, reducing net returns.

Evaluating Mutual Funds (MF)
Mutual funds can offer better returns, especially if you choose actively managed funds.

Benefits of Mutual Funds
Higher Returns Potential: Over the long term, mutual funds, especially equity funds, can provide substantial returns.

Professional Management: Fund managers handle investments, aiming to maximise returns.

Diversification: Mutual funds spread investments across various assets, reducing risk.

Disadvantages of Index Funds
Average Returns: Index funds mimic market indexes and provide average returns, which may not be optimal.

Lack of Flexibility: They cannot adapt to market changes like actively managed funds can.

Less Protection in Downturns: Index funds cannot avoid poorly performing sectors or stocks.

Choosing Between Direct and Regular Funds
When investing in mutual funds, it’s important to choose between direct funds and regular funds.

Disadvantages of Direct Funds
No Advisory Support: Direct funds lack guidance from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP).

Time-Consuming: Managing and choosing the right funds requires significant time and knowledge.

Higher Risk of Missteps: Without professional advice, the risk of making suboptimal choices increases.

Benefits of Regular Funds
Professional Guidance: Investing through a CFP provides expert advice tailored to your goals.

Regular Monitoring: A CFP regularly reviews your portfolio, making necessary adjustments.

Optimised Portfolio: CFPs ensure your investments align with your risk profile and goals.

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Risk Tolerance: Assess your comfort level with market volatility and risks.

Financial Needs
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