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He has a mechanical engineering degree from Government Engineering College, Sambhajinagar, and an MBA in international business from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune.
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Hello Sir, Greetings. My name is Anil. I quit my last job in Sept 2021 and did not withdraw my PF amount till today. I will complete my 60 years in the next year. I have a continuous service af more than 22 years all PF account have transferred time to time when I joined the new organization. Please let me know whether I should continue to keep my PF balance in PF account and will I get the interest every year? Also please let me know when should I start with my PF pension? Thanks in advance for your guidance

Ans: Hello;

You should withdraw your EPF corpus immediately and invest elsewhere.

After 3 continuous years of no contribution, except interest, the EPF account becomes inoperative.

If you have opted for deferred pension you may receive EPS pension after completing 60 years of age.
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Sir,I have worked in private company from September 2011 to feb 2021 where my pf amount was deducted.l have completed 9 years 5 months service and resigned but not withdrawn pf amount.I want to get pension after 60 years what should I do ?
Ans: You can only get pension under the Employees' Pension Scheme (EPS) if you have completed at least 10 years of service. However, you can still withdraw your EPF amount even if you have not completed 10 years of service. To redeem your EPF amount, you can follow these steps:

1. Merge all your previous PF accounts. This can be done online through the EPFO website or at any EPFO office.
2. Fill the Composite Claim Form (Aadhaar based) and submit it to your previous employer.
3. Attach the following documents:

•Copy of your Aadhaar card.
•Copy of your PAN card.
•Bank account statement showing your IFSC code and account number.
•Cancelled cheque from your bank account.

4. Your previous employer will verify the details and submit the form to the EPFO.
5. The EPFO will process your claim and transfer the EPF amount to your bank account.

If you have not worked for more than two months after resigning from your job, you can withdraw the entire balance in your EPF account. If you have worked for more than two months after resigning from your job, you can withdraw only 75% of the balance in your EPF account. The remaining 25% can be withdrawn after two months of unemployment.

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Sir,I have worked in private company from March 2011 to Sep 2021 where my pf amount was deducted.l have completed 10 years 5 months service and resigned but not withdrawn pf amount.I want to get pension after 60 years what should I do ?
Ans: Securing Pension Benefits from EPF After Retirement
Planning for pension benefits from your EPF account after retirement requires careful consideration and proactive steps. Let's outline a strategy to ensure you receive pension benefits after turning 60.

Understanding EPF Pension Eligibility
Assessing Eligibility Criteria

Confirm eligibility for EPF pension benefits by ensuring you have completed at least 10 years of eligible service, which you have accomplished.
Verifying EPF Account Details

Verify that your EPF account reflects your entire service duration accurately, including the period from March 2011 to September 2021.
Retaining EPF Account for Pension Benefits
Maintaining EPF Account

Avoid withdrawing your EPF amount upon resignation to retain eligibility for pension benefits.
Let your EPF account accrue interest and remain active until you reach the age of 60.
Ensuring Continuous Contributions

If you join another organization, ensure that your new employer continues contributing to your EPF account, maintaining the continuity of your EPF membership.
Applying for Pension Benefits
Submitting Pension Application

Upon reaching the age of 60, submit an application for pension benefits to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization (EPFO).
Provide necessary documents, such as identity proof, EPF account details, and pension application form, as per EPFO guidelines.
Completing Formalities

Fulfill any additional formalities required by EPFO, such as verification of service details and submission of supporting documents.
Seeking Professional Advice
Consulting Certified Financial Planner (CFP)

Seek guidance from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) specializing in EPF matters to ensure compliance with EPF regulations and optimize pension benefits.
A CFP can assist in navigating the pension application process and addressing any complexities or queries that may arise.
Regular Monitoring
Monitoring EPF Account

Periodically monitor your EPF account statements to ensure accuracy and track the accumulation of pension benefits over time.
Following Up with EPFO

Follow up with EPFO authorities regarding the status of your pension application and address any delays or discrepancies promptly.
Conclusion
By retaining your EPF account and completing the necessary formalities upon reaching the age of 60, you can secure pension benefits from your EPF account after retirement. Seeking professional advice and maintaining regular communication with EPFO authorities will help streamline the process and ensure a smooth transition to pension benefits.

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I have worked in India over 15 year and the company that I worked had deducted my PF from my salary and deposited in my PF account. 9 years back I left the job in India and relocated to Dubai. I didn't withdrew my PF and till certain period I was able to see my PF balance. Later I forgot about it and now when I try to login to my account, it doesnt allow me to login as my Aadhaar account was not linked to my PF account. I reached out to my employer and submitted all documents as suggested by my employer to activate my PF account and link my Aadhaar to my PF account . My question is, is it ok to keep my money in PF account until I turn 60/retirement age and withdraw the amount and take benefit of the pension fund. Or should I withdraw the amount now and invest it in FD or MF. I had not withdrawn my PF fund because I was aware that PF allow only 2/3rd of the PF fund to be withdrawn and 1 /3rd remain in the account under pension scheme that we receive as pension after retirement.
Ans: Your situation is quite common among professionals who have relocated abroad. It's great that you are considering your options wisely. Let's explore your options and see what might work best for you.

Understanding Your Provident Fund (PF)
Your Provident Fund (PF) is a long-term savings scheme to provide benefits during retirement. You have a significant amount accumulated from your years of service in India.

Keeping Money in PF Until Retirement
Leaving your money in the PF account until retirement has certain advantages.

Benefits of Keeping Money in PF
Safety and Security: PF is a government-backed scheme, offering high security.

Tax-Free Interest: Interest earned on PF is generally tax-free until withdrawal.

Regular Pension: Upon retirement, you will receive a regular pension from the Employees’ Pension Scheme (EPS).

Potential Drawbacks
Lower Liquidity: Funds are locked in until you reach retirement age, limiting access.

Inflation Impact: The fixed interest rate may not always keep pace with inflation.

Withdrawing PF and Investing Elsewhere
Alternatively, you can withdraw your PF and invest it in other instruments like Fixed Deposits (FD) or Mutual Funds (MF).

Benefits of Withdrawing and Investing
Higher Returns Potential: Mutual funds, especially equity funds, have the potential for higher returns.

Diversification: Investing in different instruments can spread and reduce risk.

Liquidity: Investments in mutual funds and FDs are more liquid, allowing easier access to funds.

Risks to Consider
Market Volatility: Equity mutual funds can be volatile and subject to market risks.

Tax Implications: Withdrawals from PF before 5 years of continuous service are taxable.

Evaluating Fixed Deposits (FD)
Fixed Deposits (FD) are a safe investment option but have their own pros and cons.

Benefits of FDs
Safety: FDs are low-risk and provide guaranteed returns.

Fixed Interest: You know exactly how much interest you will earn over the term.

Drawbacks of FDs
Lower Returns: FDs typically offer lower returns compared to equity mutual funds.

Taxable Interest: Interest earned on FDs is taxable, reducing net returns.

Evaluating Mutual Funds (MF)
Mutual funds can offer better returns, especially if you choose actively managed funds.

Benefits of Mutual Funds
Higher Returns Potential: Over the long term, mutual funds, especially equity funds, can provide substantial returns.

Professional Management: Fund managers handle investments, aiming to maximise returns.

Diversification: Mutual funds spread investments across various assets, reducing risk.

Disadvantages of Index Funds
Average Returns: Index funds mimic market indexes and provide average returns, which may not be optimal.

Lack of Flexibility: They cannot adapt to market changes like actively managed funds can.

Less Protection in Downturns: Index funds cannot avoid poorly performing sectors or stocks.

Choosing Between Direct and Regular Funds
When investing in mutual funds, it’s important to choose between direct funds and regular funds.

Disadvantages of Direct Funds
No Advisory Support: Direct funds lack guidance from a Certified Financial Planner (CFP).

Time-Consuming: Managing and choosing the right funds requires significant time and knowledge.

Higher Risk of Missteps: Without professional advice, the risk of making suboptimal choices increases.

Benefits of Regular Funds
Professional Guidance: Investing through a CFP provides expert advice tailored to your goals.

Regular Monitoring: A CFP regularly reviews your portfolio, making necessary adjustments.

Optimised Portfolio: CFPs ensure your investments align with your risk profile and goals.

Deciding the Best Course of Action
To decide whether to keep your PF or withdraw and invest, consider the following:

Personal Financial Goals
Time Horizon: If you have a long-term horizon, mutual funds might be suitable for higher returns.

Risk Tolerance: Assess your comfort level with market volatility and risks.

Financial Needs
Liquidity Needs: Consider if you need access to funds before retirement.

Tax Considerations: Evaluate the tax implications of withdrawing your PF and the tax benefits of other investments.

Conclusion
Deciding whether to keep your PF until retirement or withdraw and invest in other options depends on your financial goals, risk tolerance, and need for liquidity. Keeping your PF offers security and a regular pension, while withdrawing and investing in FDs or mutual funds could potentially offer higher returns. Consulting with a Certified Financial Planner can provide personalised guidance and help optimise your investment strategy.

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Hi Milind I am 52 years old single woman, from small town and who has worked hard ro reach to level in corporate with good salary. I have a corpus of about 5 crores and small flat in tier 2 town. I dont enjoy yhis new job wirh reputed brand and at a senior level as i dont find ut engaging or doing justice to role. My parents are old and i worry for rhem ans want to spent rkmw with them. With this corpus can i take a call to leave job and get decent income of atleast 2-2.5 lac a month. I have been quite action oriented, but now my mind and body feel exhasuted and also fear rhat without a job i will become lazy. Also living with parents will be a joy, at the same time resteictive to eating or socializing. I am quite concious ,if i leave this well paying ,senior role job with a big renonwed corporate which many of my friends aspired for and whole lot of people congratulated me ,they will think i was not able to justify my role,hence left . I dont want that impression at last stage of career as whole life i have been seen as hard working ,passionate professional. Such rhoughts are taking toll on my mental health. Please advise what should be done
Ans: Hello;

With the corpus that you have (5 Cr) you may buy an immediate annuity from a life insurance company and can expect to receive monthly payout of 2.5 L (pre tax)from the very next month. 6% annuity rate considered, if you shop around and negotiate you may get a better rate.

You can opt for increasing annuity to account for inflation and return of purchase price to your nominee, after you.

Ensure good health insurance policy to cover yourself and your parents.

Think about some vocation which you would like to pursue passionately after retirement.

You are seeking retirement from regular 9 to 5 job not from pursuit of your passion/goals.

It could be in the role of an consultant, counselor or educator.

You should take the decision which you feel is appropriate for you irrespective of what people comment because they will comment in any case.

Learn to ignore such people.

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Hello team, I am 40 years old and retired. I have 60 lakhs in hand (to be invested) with 5.60 lakh invested in diversified mutual funds, 2 lakhs in fixed deposit, 2.22 lakh in Sukanya (SSA). Will be drawing a pension of 30K/month. I don’t have any liabilities of home loan and car loan which I have already settled. Please advise me to invest my 60 Lakh for my future. I have a single child and she is studying in 10 grades. (a) Short term goal (for 1/2/3 years) - My daughter education yearly fees of 1.5 lakh - Foreign trips alternate year costing around 1.5 lakh - Monthly income of 20 K (b) Long term goal (in 10/15/20 years) - Daughter education (graduation/Post graduation) - Daughter marriage - Corpus of 1 Crore and above Your suggestions on Life term insurance and health insurance will be appreciated. I have central government health insurance still wanted to take up a private health insurance for better treatment.
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For goal under heading "a", I recommend you the following;

1. Invest 10 L in Arbitrage type of mutual fund (low risk) for the education funding requirement of your daughter.

2. Buy an immediate annuity for 40 L from a life insurance company which may yield you a monthly income of 20 K as desired. 6 % annuity rate considered.

3. Invest MF corpus(5.6 L) and FD sum(2 L) into an equity savings type mutual fund (low to moderate risk)
This will help fund your international vacations. Value 9.84 L in 3 years considering 9 % returns.

For achievement of goal under heading "b" invest 10 L lumpsum in a pure equity mutual fund for 20 years after which it will provide you a sum of 1.15 Cr. Top-up this investment as and when possible to prepone your target achievement in 15 or 12 years.(13% return considered)

You should have adequate term life cover atleast upto 60 years of age (Check for postal life insurance at your nearest post office if you want to buy) with suitable riders and also health care cover(HDFC ergo and Niva Bupa are good)despite CGHS.

Happy Investing!!

*Investments in mutual funds are subject to market risks. Please read all scheme related documents carefully before investing.

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