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59-Year-Old Employee's EPF: Date of Exit Incorrect and Facing Challenges to Correct

Milind Vadjikar |150 Answers |Ask -Follow

Insurance, Stocks, MF, PF Expert - Answered on Sep 12, 2024

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Asked by Anonymous - Nov 07, 2023Hindi

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My date of exit is wrongly put in epf account. I will try to give joint declaration form, but my compay liquidator not give sign. My company pay(epf payment) only 2013. But i am regin in 2015. I am 59 year old. Give solutio n.

Ans: If your employer has not made the statutory EPF contributions then you can file a legal case.

For wrong DOE, joint declaration form is the right way, if the employer is not co-operating then you can talk to EPF officials about the same with documentary evidence. They may consider it, else you can file online grievance through EPFO grievance management system.

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I was working for company till 2012 where i have accumulated epf . I had gap years till 2016, when i joined new company and worked till 2018 and retired at age of 58. I was allicated UAN and i withdrew accumulated epf of 2 years and eof account was closed. I still have accumulated epf in compsny i left in 2012 and not able to withdraw or transfer earlier as company closed diwn in 2012. I approached the EPFO, they asked form 13 to be submitted tobe signed by cu?rent or previous employer- in my case my earlier company closed, last company account closed, and i dont have cutrent employer- how can i get my accumulated epf. Request guide possible process. One EPFO said join a new company, initiate new epf acccount and apply for transfer after a couple of months - i am not sure how feasible i this as i am already 64, and will epfo allow new account at thus age after a gap of 6 years?

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