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Ramalingam Kalirajan has over 23 years of experience in mutual funds and financial planning.
He has an MBA in finance from the University of Madras and is a certified financial planner.
He is the director and chief financial planner at Holistic Investment, a Chennai-based firm that offers financial planning and wealth management advice.... more
Rakesh Question by Rakesh on Dec 07, 2023Hindi
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Hello Sir,Pls advise where to show partial withdraw of PPF amount in ITR. Rgds Rakesh

Ans: The good news is that partial withdrawals from your PPF account are exempt from income tax in India. This is because PPF falls under the Exempt-Exempt-Exempt (EEE) category, meaning contributions, interest earned, and maturity amount are all tax-free.

Therefore, you don't need to specifically show the partial withdrawal amount anywhere in your Income Tax Return (ITR) form.

Here's a breakdown of the tax treatment for PPF:

Exempt on Contribution: The amount you deposit into your PPF account every year is deductible under Section 80C of the Income Tax Act, 1961.
Exempt on Interest: The interest you earn on your PPF balance is not taxed.
Exempt on Maturity/Withdrawal: The maturity amount or any partial withdrawals from your PPF account are tax-free.
However, it's still a good idea to keep records of your PPF transactions, including any partial withdrawals. This can be helpful in case the Income Tax Department asks for clarification during tax assessment. You can maintain these records physically or electronically.
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My name ANJAN KUMAR SAHU , 2013 MY PF DEDUCTED TOTAL 22000 IN L&T BUT I DONT KNOW THE PF NO HOW I WILL WITHDRAW I LEFT COMPANY IN 2013
Ans: Hello Anjan,

I understand that you left your company, L&T, in 2013 and are now looking to withdraw your provident fund (PF) amounting to ?22,000. Not knowing your PF number can be challenging, but there are ways to retrieve it and proceed with your withdrawal.

Steps to Retrieve Your PF Number
1. Contact Your Previous Employer
Reach out to the Human Resources (HR) or Payroll department of L&T. They should have records of your employment and can provide your PF number. Explain your situation and provide details such as your employee ID, the period of your employment, and any other relevant information.

2. Check Your Payslips
If you have access to your old payslips, they might contain your PF number. Payslips usually have detailed breakdowns of your salary, including deductions for PF.

3. Use the UAN Portal
If your Universal Account Number (UAN) was generated during your employment, you can retrieve your PF details through the UAN portal.

Visit the EPFO website: UAN Portal

Activate UAN: If not already done, activate your UAN by clicking on 'Activate UAN' and following the steps. You will need your Member ID, Aadhaar, or PAN.

Check PF Details: Once your UAN is activated, you can log in to the portal and view your PF account details.

4. EPFO Helpdesk
Contact the Employee Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO) helpdesk. They can assist you in retrieving your PF number using your personal details and employment history.

EPFO Helpdesk Number: 1800 118 005

Email: Contact your regional EPFO office via email. Find the contact details on the EPFO website.

Steps to Withdraw Your PF
Once you have retrieved your PF number, you can proceed with the withdrawal process.

1. Fill Out the Composite Claim Form
There are two types of forms based on whether you have an Aadhaar:

Composite Claim Form (Aadhaar): If your UAN is Aadhaar-seeded and KYC-compliant, you can submit this form directly to the EPFO office without employer attestation.

Composite Claim Form (Non-Aadhaar): If your UAN is not Aadhaar-seeded, you need your employer's attestation before submitting this form to the EPFO office.

2. Submit the Form
Submit the filled form to your regional EPFO office. Ensure you attach all necessary documents such as your identity proof, bank account details, and cancelled cheque.

3. Online Submission (if UAN is Active)
If your UAN is active and Aadhaar-seeded, you can also apply for PF withdrawal online:

Log in to UAN Member Portal: UAN Portal

Go to Online Services: Select 'Claim (Form-31, 19, 10C & 10D)'.

Enter Bank Account Details: Verify your bank account details linked with UAN.

Submit Claim: Select the claim you require (PF withdrawal, pension withdrawal, etc.), and submit.

4. Track Your Claim
After submission, you can track the status of your claim through the UAN portal or by contacting the EPFO helpdesk.

Conclusion
By following these steps, you can retrieve your PF number and proceed with the withdrawal process. It may take some time, but persistence will help you access your funds.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in

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Dear Sir, I am 55 and I am a stage 4 cancer patient for the past 5 years. Presently working with a salary of Rs.30 LPA. I have Rs.75 L in SB account. Rs.25 L in shares out of which Rs.12 L is loss. Rs.12 L in mutual funds. Rs.3 L in EPF. No commitments or liabilities. I need to know how I can get Rs. 70 K per month in case I lose my job. Kindly advise.
Ans: I truly appreciate your courage and clarity even in the face of health challenges. With your current financial resources and the need to secure a monthly income of Rs. 70,000, a detailed and careful plan is very much possible.

Let me give you a full 360-degree solution below, step-by-step.

Understanding Your Present Financial Picture
You are 55 years old and have been living with stage 4 cancer for 5 years.

You are still employed and drawing a salary of Rs. 30 lakhs per year.

You have Rs. 75 lakhs in your savings bank account.

You hold Rs. 25 lakhs in shares, with Rs. 12 lakhs in losses.

You have Rs. 12 lakhs in mutual funds.

Rs. 3 lakhs is in your EPF account.

You have no loans or financial commitments.

Your main concern is to receive Rs. 70,000 every month if the job stops.

You are not looking to take risks.

You want regular, reliable income without physical involvement.

Step 1: Emergency Medical and Health Fund
Health comes first. Keep money aside just for medical needs.

This fund should cover two years of your full household and medical costs.

Keep Rs. 15 to 20 lakhs aside for this purpose.

This money should be in ultra-safe places.

Prefer a savings bank account and liquid mutual funds.

This should remain untouched unless truly needed.

This emergency buffer gives peace and avoids panic in tough times.

Step 2: Generate Rs. 70,000 Monthly Income
Rs. 70,000 monthly means Rs. 8.4 lakhs needed per year.

Aim for post-tax cash flow from your investments.

Break your funds into income generation buckets.

Use your Rs. 75 lakhs from savings bank as the core capital.

Avoid keeping the full amount idle in SB account.

Allocate funds into low-risk, stable return instruments.

Prefer investment avenues offering quarterly or monthly payouts.

Choose options where you can withdraw in parts if needed.

Step 3: Structured Investment Allocation
Short-Term Bucket: 1 to 2 Years

Set aside Rs. 18 to 20 lakhs for short-term needs.

Put this money into highly liquid options.

Use only those that protect capital and give fixed income.

These funds will generate stable income for the next two years.

Prefer options offering monthly or quarterly payouts.

This will help replace your salary if job stops.

You don’t need to sell any shares or mutual funds right away.

You get time to think clearly, plan calmly.

Medium-Term Bucket: 3 to 5 Years

Keep around Rs. 25 to 30 lakhs here.

Invest in actively managed hybrid mutual funds.

Choose regular plans through a mutual fund distributor with CFP credentials.

Do not go for direct funds.

Direct plans do not come with personalised guidance.

There is no one to help you rebalance, switch or review.

Regular plans through a Certified Financial Planner offer ongoing support.

With hybrid funds, risk is moderate and returns are better than FDs.

Use SWP (Systematic Withdrawal Plan) to get monthly income.

You can set up SWP of Rs. 40,000 to 50,000 from this bucket.

These funds will last for years while also growing gradually.

Long-Term Bucket: 5+ Years

Keep Rs. 10 to 15 lakhs for the long-term.

This is not for current income, but for inflation beating growth.

Invest in actively managed large cap or balanced advantage funds.

Again, use regular plans with Certified Financial Planner.

These funds will build wealth for later stages.

You can shift gains to the medium bucket after 5 years.

Step 4: Shareholding Review and Action Plan
You have Rs. 25 lakhs in shares.

Out of this, Rs. 12 lakhs are in losses.

Do not sell them in a hurry.

Some may recover if you wait patiently.

First, make a list of all companies and their quality.

Exit poor-quality stocks even at a loss.

Retain good quality stocks with strong future.

If the whole portfolio is confusing, take help from a Certified Financial Planner.

You can harvest the loss now to set off gains later.

Book losses smartly to reduce future capital gains tax.

After cleaning up, move the proceeds to your medium bucket.

Step 5: Mutual Fund Review
You hold Rs. 12 lakhs in mutual funds.

Find out the type of each fund.

If these are equity funds, hold them long-term.

If returns are low or risk is high, shift to hybrid funds.

Avoid investing in index funds.

Index funds cannot protect capital in falling markets.

They simply copy the market blindly.

Actively managed funds are safer.

Professional fund managers take timely actions.

They reduce your risk and improve consistency.

Step 6: EPF Strategy
You have Rs. 3 lakhs in EPF.

EPF earns stable tax-free interest.

Do not withdraw unless it’s urgent.

Keep it as part of your long-term reserve.

Step 7: Monthly Income Setup
Use short-term and medium-term buckets to get income.

Start SWP from mutual funds for Rs. 40,000 monthly.

Use fixed income tools for Rs. 30,000 more.

Review this every year with a Certified Financial Planner.

Adjust amounts if needed based on inflation.

Step 8: Tax Planning and Awareness
Income from mutual funds is taxable.

Long-term capital gains above Rs. 1.25 lakhs taxed at 12.5%.

Short-term gains taxed at 20%.

Debt fund gains taxed as per your slab.

Plan redemptions to avoid tax shocks.

Harvest profits in a planned manner.

Step 9: Avoid These Common Mistakes
Do not invest in real estate.

It is illiquid and needs physical handling.

Do not buy annuities.

They give poor returns and lock your money.

Do not fall for insurance + investment combos.

If you already hold such policies, review them.

Consider surrender if return is poor.

Reinvest the proceeds into mutual funds.

Step 10: Use a Certified Financial Planner
A Certified Financial Planner gives structured and unbiased advice.

They help you with fund selection, SWP setup, rebalancing.

They guide you with tax-saving and risk control.

Their ongoing service is crucial at your life stage.

Choose someone with experience and clear credentials.

Finally
You are in a better financial position than many.

You have no loans, no dependents, and have built good savings.

With a calm and simple plan, you can replace your income safely.

You do not need to take risky steps now.

You have already shown strength by managing your life and job for 5 years.

Now your money should serve you with peace and stability.

Break your capital into buckets.

Get monthly income through safe withdrawals.

Review regularly with a Certified Financial Planner.

Avoid unnecessary complexity or noise.

You deserve a peaceful financial life.

Your health is precious. Let money be your quiet support.

Invest safe. Withdraw smart. Sleep well.

You are already doing well. Just add clarity and structure.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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