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He has a mechanical engineering degree from Government Engineering College, Sambhajinagar, and an MBA in international business from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune.
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Hello sir, My EPF is with two companies for, I did not withdraw or transfer my EPF savings from first company to the second company. I have single UAN though that reflect both funds. It is been more than five years now that I had shifted from first to second company and the EPF there is left untouched. Pls guide me for what needs to be done in better interest of me to transfer or to continue. If I continue as what could be the implication(s) Thanks.

Ans: It is better that you transfer the old funds into your new EPF account.
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Hello Sir, I have not withdrawn PF money from my previous company, where I worked before 2014 , That money was not transferred to my EPFO account, Is there a way to transfer that money, If Yes, Kindly guide through the process, Thanks
Ans: Transferring your old Provident Fund (PF) money to your current EPFO account is important. It ensures your funds continue to grow and are consolidated in one place. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you through the process.

Understanding the EPF System
The Employees’ Provident Fund (EPF) is a retirement benefits scheme for salaried employees. It's managed by the Employees' Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO). When you switch jobs, your PF balance can be transferred to your new employer’s EPF account.

Importance of Transferring Old PF
Transferring your old PF balance is crucial for multiple reasons:

Interest Accumulation: Your money continues to earn interest.
Simplified Management: Easier to manage a single PF account.
Avoid Dormant Accounts: Dormant accounts may not earn interest after a certain period.
Checking Old PF Balance
Before initiating the transfer, check your old PF balance. You can do this using:

EPFO Portal: Log in to the EPFO member portal with your UAN.
UMANG App: The UMANG app can also provide your PF balance details.
SMS/Call: Send an SMS or give a missed call to the registered EPFO number.
Steps to Transfer Old PF
Here’s how you can transfer your old PF balance to your current EPFO account.

Step 1: Activate UAN
Ensure your Universal Account Number (UAN) is activated. UAN links all your PF accounts.

Visit the EPFO website.
Go to the UAN Member e-Sewa portal.
Activate your UAN using your PF member ID.
Step 2: Log in to EPFO Portal
Log in to the EPFO portal using your UAN and password.

Visit the UAN Member e-Sewa portal.
Enter your UAN, password, and captcha.
Click on the ‘Sign In’ button.
Step 3: Verify Your Details
Ensure your personal details and KYC information are up-to-date. This includes:

Aadhaar Number: Must be linked and verified.
PAN: Should be verified.
Bank Account Details: Correct and verified.
Step 4: Initiate Transfer Request
To initiate the transfer request:

Click on ‘Online Services’ from the main menu.
Select ‘One Member – One EPF Account (Transfer Request)’.
Verify your personal information and PF account details of both old and new employers.
Step 5: Choose Attestation Method
You need to choose how you want to attest your claim. It can be attested by either your current employer or previous employer.

Current Employer: Select if you are currently employed.
Previous Employer: Select if you are not currently employed.
Step 6: Fill Transfer Request Form
Fill in the transfer request form with the necessary details:

Previous PF Account Number: Mention your old PF account number.
Current PF Account Number: Mention your current PF account number.
Step 7: Upload Digital Signature
Ensure your employer has a digital signature registered with EPFO. This is required to approve the transfer request.

Step 8: Submit Transfer Request
Submit the completed transfer request form. An OTP will be sent to your registered mobile number for verification. Enter the OTP to confirm.

Step 9: Track Status
You can track the status of your transfer request on the EPFO portal.

Log in to the UAN Member e-Sewa portal.
Click on ‘Online Services’ and select ‘Track Claim Status’.
Troubleshooting Common Issues
Here are solutions to common issues you might face during the transfer process.

Incorrect Details
If your personal details (name, date of birth, etc.) are incorrect, you can correct them by:

Submitting a joint declaration form with your employer.
Updating the details on the EPFO portal.
Employer Not Cooperating
If your previous employer is not cooperating:

Contact your current employer to assist with the transfer.
Reach out to EPFO for help via their grievance portal.
Technical Issues
If you face technical issues on the EPFO portal:

Clear your browser cache.
Try using a different browser.
Contact EPFO’s helpdesk for support.
Ensuring a Smooth Transfer
To ensure a smooth transfer of your PF funds:

Keep all necessary documents handy.
Regularly follow up with your employer.
Track the status of your request online.
Final Checks
Once the transfer is complete:

Check your EPFO account to confirm the transfer.
Ensure the transferred amount reflects correctly.
Keep a record of all communication and receipts for future reference.
By following these steps, you can efficiently transfer your old PF balance to your current EPFO account. This consolidation ensures your retirement funds are managed well and continue to grow.

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Hi Sir, Im 29 male,earning 75k post deductions, Im having 1.6Y baby,Ive term insurance and corporate health insurance. Ive set my goals as below Daughter education anount-(50-60 Lakhs) Considering the current fee structure assuming it would be this much Note:Amount mentioned for her whole education carrer. House purchase: It a long term goal I wanted to purchase own house. Not sure how much cost it would be in Bangalore after 10y.Kindly suggest how much one should save for the same. Retirement goal: For Retirement I would like to have a corpus of 2CR. Considering the above goals How can I achieve,Im doing investments as below 14K SIP Started from this year At present invested around 73K Direct stock value:65K SSY: 2K per month Emergency fund: Holding 6 month expenditure Liquid Amount 1L And I have a personal loan which will be completed by APR 2025. This is my current financial condition. Please suggest how can I achieve my Goals as per the current financial plan.
Ans: Hello;

I hope your term life cover is adequate (1.35-1.8Cr).
Apart from corporate health insurance it is always better to have personal health care cover as a precaution.

Glad to note that you reckoned these as important aspects of financial planning and mentioned about it upfront.

Now I recommend you the following:
Kid's higher education: 1 Cr (50-60L is less)
Retirement Corpus: 2 Cr
House: 1.75 Cr (Approx cost of 2 bhk flat in decent locality of Bengaluru 10 years hence)

Investments to fund these goals:
1. Kid's education:
Two investments will work in parallel to reach the goal.
12.5 K per month in SSY
10 K SIP in a aggressive hybrid mutual fund. Both these investments will yield corpus of around 46 L and 54 L in 15 years from now.(8% and 13% returns assumed respectively). So 1 Cr target achievable.

House: 14 K monthly sip will grow into a corpus of 35 L(=20% down payment for house worth 1.75 Cr; Balance through home loan)

Retirement corpus:
Start a monthly sip of 5 K flexicap mutual fund which will give corpus of 2.21 Cr, after 30 years.

Retirement corpus estimated on relatively lower side so request you to top it up as and when possible. Ofcourse you may have EPF which may complement it.

Do not dabble into direct stocks unless you have the knowledge and temperament to trade.

If you still want to do it earmark a fixed amount as your risk capital which you wouldn't mind even if it becomes zero and use it to deal in stocks, but strictly based on self knowledge and/or guidance from an investment advisor. Not based on TV and social media tips!!

6 month emergency fund provision in liquid funds is a good strategy.

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I am 41 years old........ I am earning approximately 1.7 lakh per month...... My family liability is approximately 50000 per month.......i have a liability of 10 lakh home loan for which i am paying 12500 monthly EMI.......my investment include 40000 per month in PPF, 4200 in NPS and 3 lakh invested in mutual funds......I own a house worth 70 lakh and a plot of land worth 30 lakh.......please guide me for my forther planning as i will retire at age of 54 on 2037.
Ans: Hello;

If you are sure about not using the land plot in future then I suggest you sell it and invest the proceeds into mutual funds.

So land sell proceeds(30 L) + existing corpus of 3 L if stays invested in pure equity mutual funds for next 13 years, it will yield you a corpus of 1.62 Cr.

Also I recommend you to start a monthly sip of 50 K into pure equity fund for 13 years. At the end of 13 years it may yield you a corpus of around 2.04 Cr. (A modest return of 13% is assumed for all mutual fund investments)

NPS investment will not mature till you reach 60 so I am keeping it out of our working.

Your contribution of 40 K per month to EPF+PPF(PPF contribution cannot be more then 1.5 L per person per year) will grow into a corpus of 1.1 Cr after 13 years.(A modest return of 8% is assumed)

So your comprehensive corpus in 2037 will be 1.62+2.04+1.1= 4.76 Cr.

If you buy an immediate annuity from an insurance company for your corpus of 4.76 Cr, you may expect a monthly payout of 1.66 L(post tax) considering annuity rate of 6%.

If you don't want to sell the land parcel then I recommend you to start an sip of 60 K per month for 13 years. This may yield you a corpus of 2.45 Cr after 13 years.

3 L current MF corpus will grow to 0.1469 Cr after 13 years

So your comprehensive corpus now is 2.45+1.1+0.1469=~3.70 Cr

If you buy an immediate annuity from an insurance company for your corpus of 3.7 Cr then you may expect to receive a monthly payout of 1.3 L(post tax).

Further NPS will yield you a corpus of 25.5 L at the attainment of 60 years of age.(9% return considered; hoping you will continue to contribute after your retirement at 54 age)

I am sure you have adequate term life insurance and healthcare insurance for yourself and family.

You are ready to retire at 54 as planned.

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My son is doing his XII Standard in CBSE Curriculum with Maths,Physics, Chemistry and Biology as his group. He is yet to decide on what next after XII with his mind wavering between Astro Physics or Micro Biology with NEET in mind. Any guidance is welcome.
Ans: Hello Srinivasan.
I am glad to hear that your son is exploring diversified fields at this early stage. Astrophysics and Microbiology both are fascinating and rewarding paths, but they differ significantly in terms of the career options and the type of studies involved.
My suggestion for your son would be to focus only on the NEET examination at this stage. There is no need to divert the mind without any reason at this stage. After the NEET examination is over, you have ample time to discover more career options along with Astrophysics and Microbiology. The inclination toward career options of a student changes multiple times during the 11th and 12th. If he is brilliant, a hard worker, and dedicated to his studies, then set a goal of Min 650 marks in the NEET examination.
For Astrophysics: Focus on excelling in Physics and Maths in XII. He can apply to top institutions like IISc, IITs, or IISERs for B.Sc. programs.
For Microbiology: Prepare for NEET if he wants to take the medical path. Otherwise, he can explore a B.Sc. in Microbiology at a reputable university.

Best of luck for his future career and upcoming NEET examination.

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Now I'm 43 years old, but next 5 year's I need 3cr with best mutual funds to invest and son education, marriage and my retirement, currently I have housing loan commitment. 70lakhs, how should I close my loan ASAP and I should have 3cr in my hand. Kindly help me, I'm in scary situation, I'm working in private sector 95k my take home and current home loan emi is 63k, 4500 recently started investment through groww app in parakh Parikh small fund, 12500 in PPF etc, kindly help. I'm completely in debt trap.
Ans: Hello;

General Comments:
People always delay retirement planning for later stage but this is not ok.

Because when you are young the investible surplus amount maybe less but you have the biggest resource, time on your side.

A mere 25K monthly sip can achieve 3 Cr in 20+ years

Query Specific Comments:
If you need this corpus in 5 years then you need to make a monthly sip of 3.55 Lacs Minimum to reach 3 Cr corpus in 5 yrs.(modest return of 13% considered).

Focus on improving your earning because then you can earmark larger amounts for investing towards your goals.

Also try to prepay the home loan as early as possible through EPF corpus or some asset sale.

Do not panic if you diligently pre-close the home loan you have ample time to invest and create a comfortable corpus for your goals.

Continue investing in MFs with increasing allocation, PPF to reach your goals.

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I am 24 years old and earn a monthly salary of Rs.65,000. I am interested in investing some of my funds for future financial security and am also planning to marry in two years. As I have no prior knowledge of investment, I would greatly appreciate guidance on this matter.
Ans: Hello;

First and foremost buy a good term life cover including riders for critical care and accident benefit.

Ensure that you can top-up the sum assured later when you grow your responsibilities after marriage.

For retirement planning you should consider investing in NPS. If your office provides it well and good but otherwise also you can open NPS account and contribute regularly for financing your retirement. It's an E-E-E type of scheme. Charges are quite low and you can decide to select allocation to the asset classes like equity, corporate debt or sovereign bonds as per your risk tolerance. It allows limited withdrawal before 60.

If you decide to contribute to NPS per month an amount of 20 K, it will grow into a corpus of 6.51 Cr by the time you are 60 years of age.(A modest return of 9% is considered)

For all other goals such as marriage, house, kid's education, car, vacation you can use mutual funds as your mode of investments.

If you do a monthly sip of say 15 K into a pure equity mutual fund then at the end of 5 years you may expect to receive a corpus of 12.72 L considering moderate return of 13%.

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