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Milind Vadjikar is an independent MF distributor registered with Association of Mutual Funds in India (AMFI) and a retirement financial planning advisor registered with Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority (PFRDA).
He has a mechanical engineering degree from Government Engineering College, Sambhajinagar, and an MBA in international business from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune.
With over 16 years of experience in stock investments, and over six year experience in investment guidance and support, he believes that balanced asset allocation and goal-focused disciplined investing is the key to achieving investor goals.... more
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Dear Sir, I have switched my Job twice. Whenever I switched my Job, I also transferred my PF from my previous Company to my New Company. But when I check my PF balance, I see that the PF amount is transferred, however the Pension amount is zero. Could you please confirm what happens to my PF amount and How can I reclaim it. Thanks And Regards Imran M Khan

Ans: Take eps scheme certificates from your previous employer and submit it to epfo thru your current employer.

Always take eps scheme certificate from the employer whose services you have quit and furnish it to the new employer so that EPS contribution is intact and keeps growing through current employer contribution.
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I have a question on my EPF, I am unable to transfer my old PF money to new company pf account. Everytime I tried it got rejected by field officer and I go to know the information stating previously in old organisation I had applied for pension now that option is not opted by me hence cannot be transfered. I left as is.. because interest was getting accumulated for the old PF account. Now I am worried because the interest did not get credited for this year 2024-25. Please can someone help me about this.
Ans: You’ve acted wisely by tracking your EPF.

Your concern is genuine. Many employees face similar EPF transfer issues due to pension-related mismatches. Let's understand your situation clearly and offer practical, 360-degree solutions.

» EPF transfer rejection due to pension option error

– You had applied for pension withdrawal in your old job.
– That means your EPS account (pension) was settled earlier.
– Now, while transferring, your PF and EPS are both linked.
– Since EPS is already settled, EPFO system is rejecting the request.
– System expects both PF and EPS to be available for transfer.
– But EPS is missing, hence the mismatch causes rejection.

» Leaving old EPF as it is: why it worked till now

– You noticed interest was accumulating till last year.
– EPFO pays interest even on inactive accounts for up to 3 years.
– So, if your old PF became inactive in 2021–22, interest will stop after 2024–25.
– That’s why no interest got credited this year.
– EPFO changed rules: after 3 years of inactivity, interest stops.
– So your old EPF is now considered inoperative.

» Understanding inoperative EPF and its impact

– Inoperative PF earns no interest after 3 years of no contribution.
– This hits long-term compounding badly.
– You will lose value due to inflation.
– Funds remain safe but growth stops.
– You can still withdraw it anytime.
– But it won’t grow anymore.

» How EPS withdrawal earlier blocks transfer now

– EPS (Employee Pension Scheme) and EPF run together.
– When you withdrew EPS from old job, the system marked that account “settled”.
– So, only PF balance remained.
– EPFO transfer system checks for both PF and EPS.
– Since EPS was withdrawn, system thinks account is closed.
– Hence, it doesn’t allow PF transfer alone.
– Manual intervention becomes necessary in this case.

» Next step: what you can do now

– Don’t worry. This is fixable with the right steps.
– You have two main options to act now.

» Option 1: Withdraw the old PF money fully

– Since your old PF account is not earning interest now, you can withdraw.
– Visit https://unifiedportal-mem.epfindia.gov.in/memberinterface/
– Login using UAN and OTP.
– Go to ‘Online Services’ → ‘Claim (Form-31, 19 & 10C)’.
– Choose Form-19 for full PF withdrawal.
– Fill and submit claim.
– Funds will be credited in 5–15 working days.
– Make sure your bank details, Aadhaar, PAN, UAN are linked and verified.
– This is the easiest and cleanest way forward now.

» Option 2: Try manual EPF transfer through grievance portal

– If you still want to transfer funds to new PF account, go for manual route.
– Visit EPF grievance portal: https://epfigms.gov.in/
– Select ‘Register Grievance’.
– Fill your UAN, personal and employment details.
– In subject, mention: “Unable to transfer old PF due to EPS withdrawal”.
– Write clearly: “EPS already settled. Request PF transfer only.”
– Attach relevant documents: previous PF passbook, EPS settlement proof, UAN card, Aadhaar.
– Ask EPFO to allow manual PF-only transfer.
– Follow up with Field Officer at your regional EPFO office.

» Understanding why withdrawal may be better than transfer here

– Your old PF account has stopped earning interest now.
– Keeping idle money in EPFO doesn't make sense.
– You’re missing future growth.
– Transferring also needs manual efforts and delays.
– Withdrawal is faster and cleaner.
– You can reinvest withdrawn money in growth-based instruments.
– You can build wealth more actively from that amount.

» What if you are not able to withdraw also?

– If portal shows error or bank/Aadhaar not updated, do this:
– Go to your employer’s HR for KYC update in EPFO.
– Submit Aadhaar, PAN, and cancelled cheque.
– Once approved by employer, you can withdraw.
– Or update these online in EPFO portal under ‘Manage > KYC’.
– Keep checking status every few days.

» Avoid delay and inaction anymore

– The earlier you act, the better.
– Every month your idle EPF loses earning power.
– Don’t let inflation reduce your corpus value.
– Reinvesting now gives better financial outcomes.

» Reinvest EPF withdrawal smartly for better growth

– If you withdraw EPF, don’t let it sit in savings account.
– You can invest in long-term diversified funds.
– Select regular plans through a Certified Financial Planner or MFD.
– Avoid direct plans.
– Direct funds give no guidance or support.
– Regular funds through an expert help in goal-based, reviewed investing.
– This brings discipline and avoids emotional decisions.

» Why direct mutual funds are not right for most investors

– Direct funds look cheap but lack personalised advice.
– You must track, manage, and rebalance yourself.
– No one guides you if market falls or goals change.
– Without CFP-led support, chances of mistakes are high.
– Many direct fund users exit early or choose wrong schemes.
– Regular plans with expert help lead to better long-term behaviour.
– Costs are higher, but results and peace of mind are better.

» Build long-term wealth using the withdrawn PF amount

– You can split the amount into short-term and long-term goals.
– Use debt mutual funds for next 1–3 year goals.
– Use equity mutual funds for 5+ years goals.
– Avoid index funds.
– Index funds copy market returns only.
– They do not adapt to market conditions.
– They cannot beat inflation in all phases.
– Actively managed funds can outperform with expert decisions.
– Choose experienced fund houses with good track record.

» Keep future PF accounts active always

– In your new job, ensure your EPF is regularly updated.
– Link Aadhaar and PAN with UAN.
– Download passbook every 6 months and track interest.
– Update nominee details.
– Keep mobile number active and linked.
– Regular monitoring prevents similar problems in future.

» Watch out for new EPF rules and interest changes

– EPFO interest rate changes yearly.
– Inactive accounts earn nothing after 3 years.
– Keep PF active by contributing or transferring.
– Long gaps reduce interest benefit.
– Track annual credit in April–July every year.

» Use grievance portal for any future issues

– EPF-related issues are best resolved via: https://epfigms.gov.in/
– Raise ticket with UAN and issue details.
– Attach screenshots or documents if needed.
– EPFO responds within 10–15 days usually.
– Follow up by calling regional office if delay happens.

» Consider PF partial withdrawal only when needed

– You can withdraw PF for home, marriage, or medical needs.
– But full withdrawal should be done only after job change or unemployment.
– Avoid breaking PF for short-term needs.
– It breaks long-term compounding.
– Use emergency funds instead.

» EPS amount once withdrawn cannot be restored

– Since you withdrew EPS earlier, you cannot restore pension benefit now.
– Only PF balance is available now.
– Future employers will build new EPS account.
– At retirement, EPS benefit depends on service years and contribution.
– Keep tracking EPS service years regularly.

» Build a backup for retirement beyond EPF

– EPF alone is not enough for retirement.
– It is low-growth and conservative.
– Use SIPs in equity funds through regular plans.
– Use PPF or debt funds for stability.
– Build a diversified retirement corpus over time.
– Don’t depend only on EPF interest.

» Final Insights

– You’ve done well by monitoring EPF and raising concerns.
– Act quickly now—withdraw or request manual transfer.
– Let the funds work for you again.
– In future, avoid PF inactivity beyond 3 years.
– Reinvest the funds for long-term wealth.
– Take support from a trusted CFP-led platform or MFD.
– Avoid DIY mistakes in mutual funds.
– Build a better, stable future using informed choices.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
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Dear Sir I have invested in a 2 BHK apartment in Mumbai Malad East area near Dindoshi court. The builder is GSA Grandeur. The builder promised to handover the flat possession ready to stay in December 2004. Later due to some issues he informed that the Flat shall be ready by December 2005. Now still he is saying that Falt shall be ready by August 2006. In this regard sir please advise what action I should take against the builder. The Flat cost is 1.11 CR plus registration charges from which I have paid him 1 CR. Kindly guide whom to approach for further action. Regards
Ans: You have taken a major financial step by booking an apartment. I appreciate your initiative in seeking advice. As a Certified Financial Planner, here is a structured menu of action you can take — from validating your rights to escalating with the proper authorities. Make sure to review all your documents and decisions with a qualified property lawyer before proceeding further.

» Confirm the agreement details

Check your Agreement for Sale (or Contract) and note the promised possession date: you mention December 2004, then December 2005, and now August 2006.

Verify whether the builder (GSA Grandeur) / promoter has a registered project under MahaRERA (Real Estate Regulatory Authority, Maharashtra).

See whether the project is listed on the MahaRERA website with a registration number.

Check if the builder has issued written communications about delay and extensions (emails/letters) and whether they have acknowledged the original date and the subsequent revised date.

Retain all payment receipts (you paid Rs 1 Cr out of total Rs 1.11 Cr + registration) and keep a record of when each payment was made and as per which schedule of installments.

» Understand your legal rights under the law

Under the Real Estate (Regulation & Development) Act, 2016 (RERA) and corresponding Maharashtra rules, if a promoter delays handing over possession beyond the agreed time, you have a right to compensation or withdrawal (refund) as per Section 18 of the Act.

You may ask the builder to pay interest on the amount you have paid so far for the period of delay. The model agreement under Maharashtra RERA states that if the promoter is unable to deliver within the time-schedule, the promoter should pay interest for every month of delay.

If the builder fails to deliver within a “reasonable” extended time (or fails entirely), you can choose to withdraw and seek refund of your money, along with compensation.

If the project is not registered with RERA (even though it should have been), then you may have additional grounds for legal action under consumer law or contract law.

Please note: recent judgments highlight that the builder’s delay gives you rights; but home-loan interest you paid may not be fully refundable via consumer forum as per recent rulings.

» Immediate practical steps you should take

Write & send a formal letter (by registered post) to the builder (GSA Grandeur) stating:

You booked the 2 BHK apartment in Malad East near Dindoshi Court.

The agreed (original) possession date was December 2004 (as per the agreement) and subsequent revised dates.

You have paid Rs 1 Cr out of total Rs 1.11 Cr + registration charges.

You demand the builder to clearly state the revised firm date of handing over possession, or alternatively offer you the option to withdraw and refund the money if they cannot meet a firm date.

You seek interest on the amounts paid for the period of delay, as per model agreement and RERA provisions.

Keep all your communication in writing and copy all relevant documents: payment receipts, agreement, letters from builder, any announcements, etc.

Check whether the builder has applied for or received Occupancy Certificate (OC) or Completion Certificate for the project/phase. Without OC the handover is legally incomplete.

» Approach the regulatory and legal forums

Check on the MahaRERA website whether the project is registered and find the project registration number.

If registered, you can file a complaint with MahaRERA (Maharashtra Real Estate Regulatory Authority) under the Act. As per FAQs, you may approach them for a refund, compensation and interest for delay.

If the project is not registered or the builder is non-compliant, you may also consider filing a suit in the consumer forum or appropriate civil court/contract tribunal for breach of contract.

Before filing, consult a lawyer specialising in real estate/consumer law so that all your evidence and claims are framed properly.

» Evaluate your options: continue vs withdraw

If the builder now gives you a firm handover date (with OC, all works completed) then you may choose to continue, given that you have already invested a large sum.

However, if the builder is still giving vague dates (August 2006 or beyond) and there are no signs of progress (OC pending, works incomplete), then you should seriously consider withdrawal and refund.

In that event, you must ask for: full refund of amount paid, interest for delay period (and compensation if justified), plus possible damages for alternative accommodation/rent you may have taken.

Monitor whether the builder is proceeding with construction, obtaining approvals, and has conveyed clear timelines.

» Assessing risk & safeguarding yourself

Since you made the payment long ago and the possession is delayed significantly, there is time-value and risk involved.

Make sure your title rights are secure: the agreement must clearly state your unit, floor, parking (if any), and your payments.

Avoid making any further significant payments unless you receive a possession letter and builder gives you the keys and OC/occupancy certificate.

Check for any lien, mortgage or charge on the builder’s property which may delay transfer further.

Note that property/real estate is subject to large delays and builder insolvency risk; hence your proactive action is wise.

» Document checklist for your case

Agreement for Sale (signed by you and builder) with possession date clause.

Payment receipts/Cheque copies of your payments (1 Cr paid) and records of registration charges.

Written communications from builder about revised dates (December 2005, August 2006).

Project registration certificate on MahaRERA (if available).

Status of Occupancy Certificate / Completion Certificate for the building.

Construction status photographs, society formation records, if any.

Correspondence showing builder’s acknowledgment of delay or your demand for possession/refund.

Any rent/alternative accommodation expense you incurred due to delay (if applicable).

» Timeline of action

Immediately send the registered letter to builder demanding firm date or refund.

Within 1-2 months if builder does not respond with firm date, file complaint with MahaRERA or initiate legal action.

Keep monitoring builder’s progress; if there is substantial delay (many years beyond promised date) your case will become stronger.

Maintain all documents and remain proactive; deadlines and records matter in these matters.

» Final Insights
You have a strong basis to assert your rights. The fact that possession was promised years ago and is still delayed means you are well within your rights to demand either speedy handover or refund/compensation. Initiate formal written demand, verify builder registration under MahaRERA, maintain all records, and seek regulatory/legal redress if builder remains non-responsive. With the right approach and evidence, you can compel the builder to perform or compensate you. Your prompt action now will protect your investment and avoid further loss.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
Holistic Investment Planners
www.holisticinvestment.in

https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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