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Vipin Question by Vipin on Jan 03, 2025Hindi
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I have a PF account pre-UAN and the transfer to the current account with UAN needs either the previous employer to approve or the current employer can approve. In my case the previous company closed its operations in India and have no one here, and I do not have a present employment too. So what's the remedy for me to claim my earlier PF?

Ans: Hello;

Your case is peculiar therefore I recommend you to personally visit the EPFO office where your old EPF account is held and talk to the officials about your situation.

They may offer you a solution for sure, else you may raise a grievance in EPFiGMS portal regarding your concern.

Best wishes;
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I am 64 years old and previously worked at Observar India Ltd. for over 15 years. However, the organization shut down many years ago, and I do not have the UAN (Universal Account Number) or PF (Provident Fund) number associated with my employment during that period. After my tenure at Observar India Ltd., I began working with Viacom18, where I am currently employed, and I have all the necessary details of my present PF account. I would like to know the process for retrieving or transferring the PF funds accumulated during my time at Observar India Ltd. to my current PF account. Considering that the company no longer exists and I lack the old PF details, what steps can I take to initiate the process? Additionally, what documents or records will be required to locate and claim the funds from my previous employment? Any guidance on dealing with such situations where the employer is no longer operational would be greatly appreciated.
Ans: Hello;

If you don't remember your EPF account number and your employer is closed, you can try these options:

1. Check your salary slip: Employers usually include the PF account number on the employee's salary slip.

2. Visit the EPFO office: You can visit the EPFO office with your identity proof and application form to get your PF number.

3.Call the EPFO helpline: You can call the EPFO helpline for information and to track past accounts.

4.Go to the EPFO website: You can fill out some basic information on the EPFO website to locate your dormant account.

Once you get the pf account number you may proceed for offline or online withdrawal of the same.

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I am 34 years old woman. Want to retire at the age of 50 years. I have 28 lacs PPF,360000 NPS, 3 mutual funds approx 60k in each. 11 lacs in PF. 2 loans - personal and car loan for 5 years. Personal loan already 1+ year gone car loan 2+ year gone.
Ans: Hi Priya,

Current Investments -
Your current investments are more (over 90%) in Debt than Equity e.g. PF (PPF+PF) = 39 lacs out total 44.4 lacs.
Debt investments like PPF/PF provide safely and security to the invested capital. But the interest rates just about help meet inflation. Growth is not achieved with these investments in the true sense.
Equity based investments like Equity Mutual Funds will provide growth in the long term (at least 5 years, and you have a good 16 years). Your current allocation is just over 6 lacs even assuming NPS as equity (check and update allocation to equity to max possible).

Loans-
Personal loans will typically have very high interest rates. This should be the first one you should try to close as early as possible. There is no point allocating any savings to investment giving less returns and paying high interest in this loan.
Car loan can continue as per schedule as its interest rate will be much less compared to Personal Loan. Unless you can prepay and close it also early, depending on your saving potential.


To retire early at age 50, you have the next 16 years to grow your corpus to a respectable amount.
I assume you are employed and contributing to PF and NPS. Hopefully you are contributing regularly to Mutual Funds also.
As income, expense and saving/investing details are unavailable I can provide some guidelines only.
Do try to maximize your monthly investment towards Equity Mutual Funds to accumulate a decent corpus for retirement.
Unless you are claiming tax benefits for PPF, consider lesser contribution to it now.
By the time you retire your Equity and Debt should be near 50% each, there by providing you safety and growth. In fact you can try to achieve higher Equity % if possible.
Overall your corpus should fetch average of over 10% returns (currently its under 8%).

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1. Pay off personal loan ASAP
2. Invest maximum savings into equity mutual funds
3. Once you have done above 2, consult a CFP to help with retirement corpus - this depends on various factors, monthly expenses, life expectancy, etc.
4. Ensure you have adequate health cover. Take a topup plan with a higher coverage and lower premiums.

If you have other goals/requirements, then do discuss with CFP and arrive at a holistic plan.

Thanks & Regards
Janak Patel
Certified Financial Planner.

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