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I don't have Income to be taxed at slab rate except STCG from DEBT MUTUAL FUNDS I do have income from LTCG, DIVIDENDS, BANK INTEREST ETC If I invest in ELSS whether IT DEPT will allow deduction under Section 80c against STCG FROM DEBT MUTUAL FUNDS in OLD TAX REGIME or they will first set off this income against Rs 3 Lakhs income which is BASIC EXEMPTION LIMIT for Senior Citizens Also, where to show STCG FROM DEBT MUTUAL FUNDS in ITR 3

Ans: 80C is not allowed against STCG taxable u/s 111A and LTCG taxable u/s 112 as well as 112A. Hence in your case STCG not covered in 111A will be adjusted against 80C

Also for old regime 2.5 lacs basic exemption limit will apply

In ITR 3 is not notified for FY 24-25, but in FY 23-24 there was option at serial number 5 wherein you have to show short term capital gain not covered in previous 4 options.
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If one invests in ELSS, is Section 80c deduction available against the SHORT TERM CAPITAL GAINS FROM DEBT MUTUAL FUNDS which is taxed at SLAB RATES and is NOT COVERED UNDER SECTION 111(A) Also, is Rebate under section 87a available in OLD TAX REGIME for incomes from LTCG FROM DEBT MUTUAL FUNDS and STCG from Equity and Debt MUTUAL FUNDS
Ans: Many investors miss the fine details around taxation of mutual fund gains and how tax benefits such as Section 80C deductions and Section 87A rebate apply, especially under the old tax regime.

Let’s explore the answer from a 360-degree personal finance perspective, and break down the two main parts of your query with clarity and structure.

Section 80C and Its Relationship with Mutual Fund Gains
Section 80C allows deduction up to Rs. 1.5 lakh from your gross total income.

ELSS (Equity Linked Saving Scheme) qualifies under this section.

This deduction reduces your taxable income, not the tax on capital gains.

ELSS investment will not offset or reduce capital gains tax directly.

It reduces overall gross income, subject to Section 80C cap.

Short Term Capital Gains (STCG) from debt mutual funds are taxed at slab rates.

This tax applies after your income is reduced by Section 80C deductions.

So yes, investing in ELSS does help lower overall income, not specific STCG tax.

You may get lower slab if ELSS brings your income into next slab bracket.

But it will not specifically reduce only the STCG tax portion.

STCG from Debt Mutual Funds and Section 80C Interaction
STCG on debt funds is now taxed at your income tax slab rate.

There is no benefit under Section 111A for debt mutual fund STCG.

Section 111A only covers STCG on equity mutual funds, taxed at 20%.

Section 80C deduction is applied to total income, not specific gain types.

So, if your gross income is Rs. 8 lakh, and Rs. 1.5 lakh goes into ELSS,

Taxable income becomes Rs. 6.5 lakh. STCG from debt is added here.

So ELSS reduces the tax base, not tax on specific STCG directly.

Section 87A Rebate in Old Tax Regime: Detailed Understanding
Section 87A gives rebate up to Rs. 12,500.

Available when total taxable income is up to Rs. 5 lakh.

This benefit exists even under the old tax regime.

So, if after deductions your taxable income is under Rs. 5 lakh,

Then no tax is payable even if you have capital gains.

But this rebate applies to total tax liability, not just salary.

If you have LTCG or STCG, it counts as income.

And if after adding capital gains your income crosses Rs. 5 lakh,

Then you lose the Section 87A rebate.

So plan smartly to keep income within that slab, if possible.

LTCG from Debt Mutual Funds: Interaction with Section 87A
From April 2023, LTCG and STCG in debt mutual funds are treated equally.

Both are taxed as per slab rate, no indexation benefit is allowed.

So even LTCG from debt funds adds to total income.

Rebate under Section 87A can still apply if net income is under Rs. 5 lakh.

But if income becomes Rs. 5.01 lakh, rebate is fully lost.

There is no partial rebate if you cross Rs. 5 lakh limit.

Plan ELSS, deductions, HRA, and 80D well to stay under Rs. 5 lakh if possible.

STCG from Equity Mutual Funds: Special Rule
STCG from equity mutual funds is taxed under Section 111A.

Flat 20% tax is applicable.

Section 87A does not cover tax under Section 111A.

Even if income is below Rs. 5 lakh, tax on equity STCG is payable.

So, you may end up paying tax on STCG despite low income.

Plan to time redemptions and match losses if possible.

Final Insights
ELSS under Section 80C helps reduce total income, not just gains tax.

Tax from STCG debt funds is applied after deductions, at slab rate.

Rebate under Section 87A in old regime is available up to Rs. 5 lakh income.

But it doesn’t cancel out STCG from equity funds taxed under Section 111A.

LTCG from debt funds is now fully taxable at slab rate, just like STCG.

You should always aim to optimise your deductions to bring income down.

Use ELSS, 80D, and other deductions to minimise tax in old regime.

Always time your redemptions of mutual funds across financial years.

Plan gains to fall in different tax years to use 87A effectively.

Rebalance gains and losses. This helps manage tax and maintain allocation.

Avoid investing in index funds. They do not beat market returns.

Actively managed funds offer alpha, better opportunity, and sector shifting.

Direct mutual funds may save commissions, but lack expert advice.

A Certified Financial Planner through a Mutual Fund Distributor gives you full support.

Helps in fund selection, review, tax efficiency, and portfolio alignment.

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If income consists of salary ( less than Rs 12 lakh) and ltcg on equity and debt mutual funds and exceeds Rs 12 lakh, will 87A rebate allowed by IT ?
Ans: Let us now assess the situation in a very simplified way.

You are earning a salary.
Your salary is less than Rs 12 lakh per year.
You also have long-term capital gains (LTCG).
You have LTCG from equity mutual funds.
You also have LTCG from debt mutual funds.
Your total income, including LTCG, is more than Rs 12 lakh.

So, will you get the Section 87A rebate?

Let us look at the law and assess it properly.

Who Can Claim 87A Rebate?

You must be a resident individual in India.

Your total taxable income must be less than or equal to Rs 7 lakh.

If income crosses Rs 7 lakh, even by Rs 1, rebate will not apply.

The rebate under Section 87A is Rs 25,000 (for FY 2024-25) under the new tax regime.

If you are under the old tax regime, rebate is Rs 12,500 if income is below Rs 5 lakh.

What is Total Taxable Income?

It includes salary, capital gains, interest, rental, etc.

It means your entire income after deductions.

Deductions include 80C, 80D, NPS, home loan interest, etc.

Even capital gains are part of total taxable income.

LTCG on equity funds is tax-free up to Rs 1.25 lakh now.

Anything above Rs 1.25 lakh in LTCG will be taxed at 12.5%.

Debt mutual fund gains are taxed as per your income tax slab.

So, LTCG is included in total income.

Impact of LTCG on Rebate Eligibility

If total income, after all deductions, is above Rs 7 lakh, you are not eligible.

Even if salary is low, LTCG can push income above Rs 7 lakh.

So, 87A rebate is not available if income crosses Rs 7 lakh.

No partial rebate is given if it exceeds by just a small amount.

Simple Summary With Example

Salary: Rs 6.5 lakh

LTCG on equity: Rs 2 lakh

Exempt LTCG: Rs 1.25 lakh

Taxable LTCG: Rs 75,000 (tax at 12.5%)

Total taxable income: Rs 7.25 lakh

Since income > Rs 7 lakh, no rebate under 87A allowed.

You will pay tax on full income as per new tax regime.

Suggestion from Certified Financial Planner

You can use deductions like 80C, 80D, NPS, etc.

These deductions help in bringing total income below Rs 7 lakh.

If total income is reduced to Rs 7 lakh or less, then 87A rebate will apply.

Plan gains carefully to avoid crossing Rs 7 lakh limit.

Spread sale of equity mutual funds across different financial years.

Or use loss harvesting to lower LTCG in the same year.

Key Reminders on Mutual Fund Taxation Rules

For equity mutual funds:

LTCG above Rs 1.25 lakh taxed at 12.5%.

STCG taxed at 20%.

For debt mutual funds:

Both LTCG and STCG taxed as per your income slab.

No indexation benefit anymore.

This increases tax burden significantly for high-income investors.

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Index funds don’t beat the market.

They only match the market returns.

No downside protection during falling markets.

Fund manager has no control over stock selection.

All stocks in index are included even if they perform poorly.

Volatility is high during market corrections.

No active risk management.

They do not suit goal-based long-term investing.

Benefits of Actively Managed Funds

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They aim to beat market returns.

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Flexibility in asset allocation and stock selection.

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Ideal for retirement, children’s education, and wealth building.

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Final Insights

Section 87A rebate is simple but strict.

It is based on your total income after deductions.

LTCG on mutual funds is fully considered in total income.

If total income exceeds Rs 7 lakh, rebate is lost.

You must plan gains and deductions wisely.

Reduce LTCG through staggered redemptions.

Use tax-saving options under 80C, 80D, NPS, etc.

Avoid relying on index funds.

Choose active mutual funds with better performance scope.

Avoid direct funds without proper knowledge.

Get help from a Certified Financial Planner.

Your financial journey will be safer and more confident.

Tax saving and goal achievement can go together.

Don’t miss opportunities to plan better.

Tax efficiency and smart fund choices matter every year.

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Dear Sir/Ma'am, I need some guidance and advice for continuing my mutual fund investments. I am a 36 year old male, married, no kids yet and no debts/liabilities as such. I have couple of savings in PPF, NPS, Emergency funds and long term investing in direct stocks. I recently started below mentioned SIPs for long term to grow wealth. Request you to review the same and let me know if I should continue with the SIPs or need to rationalize. Kindly also advice on how to invest a lumpsum amount of around 6lacs. invesco small cap 2000 motilal oswal midcap 2700 parag parikh flexicap 3000 HDFC flexicap 3100 ICICI prudential largecap 3100 HDFC large and midcap 3100 HDFC gold etf FOF 2000 ICICI Pru equity and debt fund 3000 HDFC balanced advantage fund 3000 nippon india silver etf FOF 2000
Ans: You already built a solid foundation. Many investors delay planning. But you started early at 36. That gives you a strong advantage. You have no liabilities. You have long term thinking. You also have diversified savings like PPF, NPS, Emergency funds and direct stocks. That shows clarity and discipline. This approach builds wealth with less stress over time.

You also started systematic investments in equity funds. That is a positive step. Your selection covers multiple categories like large cap, mid cap, small cap, flexi cap, hybrid and precious metals. So the intent is right. You are trying to create a broad portfolio. That gives balance.

» Your Portfolio Composition Understanding
Your current SIP list includes:

Small cap

Mid cap

Flexi cap

Large cap

Large and mid cap

Hybrid category

Gold and Silver FoF

Equity and Debt allocation fund

Dynamic hybrid fund

This shows you are trying to cover many segments. But too many categories can create overlap. When there is overlap, you get confusion during review. It also makes portfolio discipline difficult. You may think you are diversified. But the holdings inside may repeat. That reduces efficiency.

Your portfolio now looks like:

Equity dominant

Hybrid for stability

Metals for hedge

So the broad direction is fine. But simplifying helps in long-term habit building.

» Fund Category Duplication
You hold:

Two flexi cap funds

One large and mid cap fund

One pure large cap fund

One mid cap fund

One small cap fund

Flexi cap funds already invest across large, mid, small. Then large and mid also overlaps. So the large cap exposure gets repeated. That may not add extra benefit. But it increases monitoring complexity.

So I suggest rationalising. Keep one fund per category in core. Keep satellite space for only high conviction.

» Core and Satellite Strategy
A structured portfolio follows core and satellite method.

Core portfolio should be:

Simple

Long term

Stable

Satellite portfolio can be:

High growth

Concentrated

Based on your thinking level, you can structure like this:

Core funds:

One large cap

One flexi cap

One hybrid equity and debt fund

One balanced advantage type fund

Satellite funds:

One mid cap

One small cap

One metal allocation if needed

This division gives clarity. You can continue SIPs with review every year. No need to stop and restart often. That reduces behavioural mistakes.

» Your Current SIP List Review with Suggested Streamlining

You can consider continuing:

One flexi cap

One large cap

One mid cap

One small cap

One balanced advantage

One equity and debt hybrid

You may reconsider keeping both flexi caps and both gold silver funds. One of each category is enough. Because too many funds do not increase returns. It complicates tracking.

Precious metal funds should not be more than 5 to 7 percent in your portfolio. This is because metals are hedge assets. They do not create compounding like equity. They act as protection during cycles. So keep them small.

» How to Use the Rs 6 Lakh Lump Sum
You asked about lump sum investing. This is important. Lump sum should not go fully into equity at one time. Markets move in cycles. So use a staggered method. You can invest the lump sum through STP (Systematic Transfer Plan). You can keep the amount in a liquid fund and set STP toward your chosen growth funds over 6 to 12 months.

This reduces timing risk. It also creates discipline. So your Rs 6 lakh can be deployed gradually. You may use 50% towards core equity funds and 30% toward satellite growth category. The remaining 20% can go into hybrid category. This gives balance and comfort.

» Regular Funds Over Direct Funds
One important point many investors miss. Direct funds look cheaper. But they demand deep knowledge, discipline, and behaviour control. Most investors lose more through emotional selling and wrong timing than they save on expense ratio.

With regular funds through a Mutual Fund Distributor with Certified Financial Planner qualification, you get guidance, structure and correction. The advisory discipline protects you during market extremes. That is more valuable than a small saving in expense ratio.

A personalised planner also tracks portfolio drift, rebalancing need and category shifts. So regular fund investing gives long-term benefit and behaviour coaching.

» Actively Managed Funds over Index or ETF
Some investors choose index funds or ETF thinking they are simple and cheap. But they ignore drawbacks.

Index funds or ETF will not avoid weak companies in the index. They will invest whether the company grows or struggles. There is no fund manager decision making. So when markets are at peak, index funds continue aggressive exposure. In downturns also they fall fully. There is no cushion.

Actively managed funds work with research teams. They can avoid bad sectors. They can shift allocation based on market and economy. Over long term, this gives better alpha and stability. So continuing with actively managed funds creates better wealth compounding.

» SIP Continuation Strategy
Once the rationalisation is done, continue SIPs every month without interruption. Pause and restart behaviour damages compounding power. SIP works best when you go through all market cycles. You benefit more during corrections because cost averaging works.

So continue SIP amount. You can also review SIP increase every year based on income. Increasing SIP by 10 to 15 percent every year helps you reach large corpus faster.

» Asset Allocation Based Approach
One key point in wealth creation is having the right asset mix. Equity gives growth. Hybrid gives balance. Metals give hedge. Debt gives safety. Your asset allocation should stay aligned to your risk profile and time horizon.

Since you are young and have long term horizon, higher equity allocation is fine. But as time moves, rebalancing is important. Rebalancing protects gains and restores allocation.

So review your asset allocation every year or during major life events like child birth, home buying or retirement planning.

» Behaviour Management
Many portfolios fail not due to bad funds. They fail due to bad decisions. Selling during correction. Stopping SIP when market falls. Chasing past return performance. These mistakes reduce wealth.

Your discipline so far is good. Continue to stay patient during volatility. Equity rewards patience and time.

» Financial Goals Clarity
Since you have no children now, you can decide your long-term goals. Typical goals may include:

Retirement

Future child education

Dream lifestyle purchase

Health care reserves

When goals are clear, investment purpose becomes stronger. So you can map each fund category to goal horizon. Short-term goals should not use equity. Long-term goals should use equity with hybrid support.

» Role of Review and Monitoring
Review once in a year is enough. Frequent review can create anxiety. Annual review helps check:

Fund performance

Expense drift

Category relevance

Allocation balance

Then adjust only if needed. This progress helps you stay confident and aligned.

» Taxation Awareness
Equity mutual funds taxation rules are:

Short term (below one year holding) taxable at 20 percent

Long term (above one year holding) gains above Rs 1.25 lakh taxable at 12.5 percent

Debt mutual funds are taxed as per your income slab.

So always hold equity funds for long term. That reduces tax impact and gives better growth.

» SIP Increase Plan
You can create a simple plan to increase SIP over time. For example:

Increase SIP at every salary increment

Increase SIP during bonus time

Use rewards or extra income for investing

This habit accelerates wealth. So by the time you reach 45 to 50 years, your investments could reach a strong level.

» Insurance and Protection
Before investing large, ensure you have term insurance and health insurance. If not already done, it is important. Insurance protects wealth. Without insurance, even a small medical event can impact investment plan. So review this part also. Since you are married, cover both.

» Wealth Behaviour Mindset
You are already disciplined. Just keep these simple principles:

Invest without stopping

Review once a year

Avoid funds overlap

Follow asset allocation

Avoid reacting to media noise

This helps you reach long term milestones.

» Finally
You are on the right track. Only fine tuning and simplification is needed. Your discipline is visible. Your portfolio will grow well with structure, patience and periodic review. Use the Rs 6 lakh with STP approach. And continue SIP with rationalised categories.

With time and consistency, wealth creation becomes effortless and peaceful. You just need to stay committed and avoid overthinking during market movements.

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K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in

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