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Dear sir, I have completed 8.7months and withdrawn the PF amount. But I have received the certificate from pension authority. Can I get the pension by submitting the certificate at EPFO office or I have to withdraw the money. What to do. Please guide

Ans: For eligibility under the Employees' Pension Scheme (EPS), the minimum service requirement is 10 years of service. Unfortunately, with 8 years and 7 months of service, you do not meet the minimum 10-year requirement to be eligible for a monthly pension.
if you have withdrawn the PF amount, check whether your previous employment details were also included, if yes, then you may be eligible for EPS as your services cross 10 years. in that case, you can submit the request for eps pension.
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hi, i have worked 5 different companies starting from 01.02.1992 to 31.08.2012 and contributed to PF as per the policy. i have passbook of PF account but only amount of last company is reflecting in the passbook. I have withdrawn EPF balance but EPS part is still not withdrawn from any company. my last company has not updated the records from previous companies, . i am getting 58 years next on 29042024. i have account with EPFO and UAN. How can i get the amount accumulated or get the scheme certificate or start pension at reduced rates...i am working with a company but not registered with PF.
Ans: Given your situation, consolidating and tracking your EPF contributions and benefits can be a bit challenging but certainly manageable. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you navigate this:

Consolidation of UAN: If you have a UAN (Universal Account Number), ensure that all your previous PF accounts are linked to it. You can do this by logging into the EPFO portal and checking the 'Manage' tab under 'For Employees'. If your previous companies have not linked your UAN to their establishment IDs, you can request them to do so.
Transfer of EPF: Use the EPFO's online transfer portal to transfer the EPF accumulations from your previous accounts to your current PF account. This will consolidate all your PF accumulations into one account, making it easier to manage and track.
EPS (Employee Pension Scheme): Since you have not withdrawn the EPS contributions from any of your previous employers, you can apply for a scheme certificate through your current employer. A scheme certificate provides details of your service and contributions and can be used to avail pension benefits at the age of 58.
Pension at Reduced Rates: If you opt for pension before attaining the age of 58, it would be at a reduced rate. However, if you choose to defer it, your pension amount will increase. You can apply for a reduced pension through your current employer or directly with the EPFO after completing Form 10D.
Contact EPFO: If you face any issues or discrepancies in your PF accounts, reach out to the EPFO regional office or helpdesk. Provide them with the necessary details and documents, including your UAN, PF account numbers, and service details with each employer.
Consult a Financial Advisor: Given the complexities involved in EPF and EPS, consulting a financial advisor or a retirement planner can be beneficial. They can guide you through the process, help you understand the implications of withdrawing or transferring your EPF and EPS accumulations, and assist you in making informed decisions regarding your retirement benefits.
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sir, am 26 year old and have some SIPs for Rs 1000 each. 1. QUANT SMALL CAP FUND DIRECT 2. NIPPON INDIA LARGE CAP DIRECT 3. MIRAE ASSEST ELSS TAX SAVER 4. UTI NIFTY 50 5. PARAG PARIKH FLEXI CAP 6. TATA MIDCAP GROWTH DIRECT 7. TATA SMALL CAP DIRECT my question is, these are good SIPs for next 10-15 years ? second is i want to invest 10000 more per month, please let me know which SIPs will be good for next 15 years. Thanks
Ans: At age 26, it is appreciable that you have started investing early.

It shows responsibility towards your future financial goals.

Your current SIPs are diversified across multiple categories.

But some of these SIPs may not be aligned well for long-term consistency.

Let us now review each one professionally.

1. Quant Small Cap Fund - Direct

Small caps can be volatile.

This fund is aggressive and high-risk.

Direct plans have no guidance or monitoring.

This may affect long-term performance.

Switching to a regular plan with a Certified Financial Planner is better.

This will ensure proper guidance and rebalancing.

2. Nippon India Large Cap - Direct

Large caps offer stability in a portfolio.

However, this fund’s long-term consistency is not very strong.

Also, direct plans lack expert monitoring.

A regular plan through a CFP ensures better handholding.

Tracking and performance review becomes easier.

3. Mirae Asset ELSS Tax Saver

This fund is decent for tax saving.

It is diversified and has shown fair returns.

However, regular review is still needed.

A regular plan helps with documentation and timely alerts.

Switching to regular mode can be beneficial in the long run.

4. UTI Nifty 50 - Direct

This is an index fund.

Index funds only mirror the market.

They do not aim to beat the market.

They lack human intelligence and flexibility.

They don’t perform well during corrections or sideways markets.

Actively managed funds have higher potential.

They can outperform in changing market situations.

Consider replacing this with a well-managed large cap fund.

In regular plan through CFP, you get guided fund selection.

5. Parag Parikh Flexi Cap

Flexi cap funds provide flexibility across market segments.

This fund has been popular recently.

But it has higher exposure to international stocks.

This brings currency risk and regulatory risks.

Also, it may overlap with other holdings.

You should regularly monitor for overlap and concentration.

Again, direct mode has no professional review.

6. Tata Midcap Growth - Direct

Midcaps are good for long-term.

But they need close tracking due to higher volatility.

A regular plan with expert guidance is ideal.

Direct mode will not help during market correction periods.

Switching to regular mode will ensure ongoing support.

7. Tata Small Cap - Direct

Small caps are risky in short to medium term.

This should not be your core holding.

Should be allocated only with close guidance.

Again, direct plans can go off-track without support.

If unmanaged, can bring portfolio imbalance.

Assessment of Direct Funds: Key Concerns

Direct funds may look cheaper in expense.

But they lack professional support and review.

There is no monitoring of changes in fund quality.

You may miss timely exits and rebalancing.

A Certified Financial Planner guides with logic and analysis.

They also help align your funds with your goals.

Regular plans have MFD support and rebalancing discipline.

They protect from behavioural mistakes during market volatility.

Overall, regular funds with expert guidance bring higher net value.

What Can Be Done with Your Existing SIPs?

You can consider the following changes:

Discontinue index fund (UTI Nifty 50) SIP.

   

Reduce exposure to direct small and midcap funds.

   

Switch from direct plans to regular plans via a Certified Financial Planner.

   

Ensure SIPs are part of a professionally constructed portfolio.

   

Ensure proper asset allocation, fund category balancing and tax efficiency.

   

New SIP of Rs 10,000 per Month – Suggestions

For your new Rs 10,000 monthly SIP, here is a 360-degree plan:

Allocate across diversified categories.

   

Ensure each fund has low overlap and different market focus.

   

Invest in 3 to 4 funds max.

   

All in regular mode with CFP-led support.

   

Avoid index funds, as they only match market returns.

   

Go for actively managed funds with proven history.

   

Include large-cap, mid-cap and flexi-cap mix.

   

Monitor quarterly with your Certified Financial Planner.

   

Additional Guidance for 15-Year Wealth Building

At 26, your time horizon is excellent.

But long-term wealth creation needs more than just SIPs.

It needs strategy and discipline.

Below are key steps for a full-circle approach:

Set clear financial goals: Home, car, retirement, child education etc.

   

Link SIPs to each goal separately.

   

Keep emergency fund in place (6 months expenses).

   

Get sufficient life and health insurance (pure protection plans).

   

Avoid investment-cum-insurance products.

   

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Do not mix insurance with investment.

   

Track your SIP performance annually.

   

Rebalance if some funds underperform.

   

Maintain asset allocation: Equity, Debt and Liquid.

   

Avoid emotional reactions during market dips.

   

Stay invested with guidance from your CFP.

   

Be aware of taxation rules on equity and debt funds.

   

LTCG on equity above Rs 1.25 lakh is taxed at 12.5%.

   

STCG on equity is taxed at 20%.

   

Debt fund gains are taxed as per income slab.

   

Regular plan MFD and CFP helps with all tax planning.

   

What Not to Do in the Next 15 Years

Don’t invest in index funds.

   

They lack active strategy.

   

Don’t choose funds by past returns only.

   

Don’t use direct funds without financial expertise.

   

Don’t invest in real estate for returns.

   

Don’t invest in annuity products for retirement.

   

Don’t mix investment and insurance.

   

Don’t make decisions based on short-term news or noise.

   

Don’t stop SIPs during market corrections.

   

Role of a Certified Financial Planner

A Certified Financial Planner helps you:

Set goals based on life stages.

   

Create custom SIP and lump sum plans.

   

Select the best active funds for your goals.

   

Rebalance annually to stay on track.

   

Plan taxes as per latest rules.

   

Protect wealth with right insurances.

   

Build retirement with strategic planning.

   

Create a total financial blueprint for life.

   

Keep emotions out of financial decisions.

   

Final Insights

You have taken a great step by starting early.

But choosing the right funds is key.

More important is monitoring them regularly.

Direct plans lack this important support.

Switching to regular plans under CFP brings value.

Also, add Rs 10,000 new SIP with proper strategy.

Don’t follow trends.

Stay committed and review annually.

Avoid overlapping funds and unnecessary risks.

Have a complete financial roadmap in place.

You are building your future.

Make each rupee work with expert guidance.

This 360-degree approach will lead to better outcomes.

You will be financially secure and confident.

Take the next steps with clarity and care.

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Dear Sir I had ancestral property at native place which fetch 14K Rent monthly...Property is 40Years old.. Will it be good If I sell that property for 70Lakh and keep that money in Balanced fund or in NPS account
Ans: You are thinking wisely about your assets.

Let’s look at this from a 360-degree perspective.

Rental Income vs Sale Value

The property gives you Rs. 14,000 monthly rent.

That is Rs. 1.68 lakhs per year.

Over 10 years, you may earn Rs. 16 to 18 lakhs from rent.

Maintenance cost, property tax, and repairs will reduce this further.

Also, a 40-year-old property needs more upkeep.

Its resale value may not grow much more from here.

Selling now for Rs. 70 lakhs gives you full value in hand.

You can use that money in better investment options.

Emotional Value vs Financial Value

Being ancestral property, emotions may be attached.

But emotional value won’t solve financial needs.

If the property is not well located or not appreciating well, selling is practical.

You can honour the legacy in other ways.

Should You Invest in NPS?

NPS is a retirement tool with lock-in till age 60.

You can’t withdraw freely.

It is good for building a pension corpus.

But not suitable if you want liquidity or flexibility.

Once you invest, you cannot move the funds easily.

Also, returns are not consistent. Depends on market and fund manager.

Use NPS only for a part of your funds if your retirement goal is clear.

Should You Put in Balanced Funds?

Balanced funds (also called hybrid funds) invest in both equity and debt.

They are good for moderate risk and stable returns.

Suitable for long-term goals like retirement, child's education, or financial freedom.

They give better return than traditional options.

But don’t invest in direct plans.

Direct funds don’t guide during volatility.

Regular plans through MFD with CFP support are better.

You get timely advice and fund switching support.

Active fund managers make strategy changes.

Index funds or passive options don’t do that.

Actively managed balanced funds are better for Indian investors.

What You Should Do Now

Sell the property if there’s no growth and rising maintenance.

Use part of the Rs. 70 lakhs to reduce any high-interest debt.

Keep 6 to 12 months of expenses as emergency fund in liquid mutual fund.

Invest the rest through SIP and STP in regular hybrid funds.

Plan your financial goals with a Certified Financial Planner.

For retirement, use mutual funds along with PPF and EPF.

Use NPS for small part only, due to lack of liquidity.

Tax Impact You Should Know

On sale, capital gains tax will apply.

Since it's ancestral property, indexed cost and holding period matter.

Tax can be planned using capital gain bonds or reinvestment.

Don’t keep all money in savings account. Plan it step-by-step.

A Suggested Allocation Strategy (Not Specific Schemes)

Rs. 10 to 15 lakhs – emergency and contingency in liquid or short-term fund.

Rs. 40 to 45 lakhs – invest gradually in hybrid and multicap mutual funds.

Rs. 10 lakhs – use for NPS only if you have no urgent needs till age 60.

Avoid direct funds, index funds, or annuity options.

Use regular funds via MFD under CFP guidance.

Final Insights

Selling old property and investing is a progressive step.

You are unlocking stuck value into a growing asset.

Old assets slow down your money’s growth.

Balanced mutual funds help you grow with moderate risk.

NPS gives tax benefit but lacks flexibility.

Don’t invest entire money in NPS. Use mix of better tools.

Avoid emotional attachment if the property is non-performing.

Turn this decision into a lifetime opportunity.

Your wealth deserves active planning, not passive holding.

Take support from a Certified Financial Planner to execute wisely.

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