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Ramalingam Kalirajan has over 23 years of experience in mutual funds and financial planning.
He has an MBA in finance from the University of Madras and is a certified financial planner.
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MAN Question by MAN on Feb 22, 2024Hindi
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1) If last 5 -7 yrs salary is less than compared to previous 10/15 years salary then pension(EPS) will be less ? /how pension calculated ?Please explain with one example using formula 2) In EPF inoperative accounts (more than 3 yrs) can we get interest on the balance every year ? upto which age?

Ans: 1. Your EPS pension and salary history:

That's a good question! Yes, your EPS pension can be affected by your salary history. Here's why:

EPS contribution: Both you and your employer contribute a fixed percentage of your salary (capped at Rs. 15,000) towards EPS.
Lower salary, lower contribution: If your salary in the last few years was lower, the EPS contribution would also be lower. This can slightly reduce your final pension amount.
Calculating EPS pension can get complex, but here's a simplified idea:

Formula factors: Your pension considers your average monthly salary during a defined period, service duration, and a factor decided by the EPFO.
Lower average salary: If your average salary over the relevant period is lower due to recent pay cuts, the calculated pension might be slightly affected.
2. Interest on inactive EPF accounts:

Even inactive accounts (no contributions for over 3 years) earn interest. Here's how it works:

Interest accrual: You continue to earn interest on the existing EPF balance.
Interest rate: The interest rate is declared by the EPFO every year.
Age limit: There's no upper age limit for earning interest on your EPF balance.
Remember:

Reactivate accounts: If you rejoin a previous employer, reactivate your old EPF account to avoid creating a new one.
Claim process: You can claim your EPF and interest even after retirement.
Let a CFP help!

A Certified Financial Planner (CFP) can give you personalized advice on managing your EPF and planning for retirement. They can help you understand complex calculations and make informed decisions.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in
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Sir thank you for your prompt reply. I have the following queries: 1. As I have completed 10 years of service, can I still withdraw complete EPS amount. 2. For getting pension immediately after retirement as I understand I need to fill form 10D. Can this form be filed online also. 3. After I retire when should I submit the form 10D to EPFO Office to start getting pension. 4. I would be retiring on 30th April 2024 so for how many years can I earn interest on my EPF Account without withdrawing it and what would be my last date by which I should apply for the claim. 5. While applying for the EPF Account after the maximum extended period possible can I apply for the claim online. Thanking you in advance.
Ans: Certainly! Let’s address your queries regarding the Employees’ Pension Scheme (EPS) and the process for pension withdrawal:

EPS Withdrawal After 10 Years of Service:
If you have completed less than 10 years of service or have attained the age of 58 years (whichever is earlier), you are eligible for lump-sum withdrawal from your EPS account.
However, if you have completed 10 or more years of service, you cannot withdraw the EPS amount. Instead, you can opt for a Scheme Certificate by filling Form 10C along with the Composite Claim Form (Aadhaar or Non-Aadhaar).
The Scheme Certificate allows you to transfer your pension benefits if you join another employment later.
Pension will be paid to you after attaining the age of 58 years123.
Filing Form 10D for Immediate Pension:
To receive pension immediately after retirement, you need to fill Form 10D.
Unfortunately, Form 10D cannot be filed online. You’ll need to submit it physically to the EPFO Office.
Submission of Form 10D:
After your retirement, submit Form 10D to the EPFO Office to initiate the process of receiving pension.
Ensure that you complete all necessary documentation accurately.
Interest on EPF Account:
Until you decide to withdraw your EPF amount, it continues to earn interest.
As of now, the interest rate is determined by the EPFO and is subject to change periodically.
Since you are retiring on 30th April 2024, you can continue earning interest until you decide to claim your EPF.
Claiming EPF Account After Maximum Extended Period:
After the maximum extended period (usually 3 years of inactivity), you can still apply for EPF withdrawal.
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