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Milind Vadjikar is an independent MF distributor registered with Association of Mutual Funds in India (AMFI) and a retirement financial planning advisor registered with Pension Fund Regulatory and Development Authority (PFRDA).
He has a mechanical engineering degree from Government Engineering College, Sambhajinagar, and an MBA in international business from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management, Pune.
With over 16 years of experience in stock investments, and over six year experience in investment guidance and support, he believes that balanced asset allocation and goal-focused disciplined investing is the key to achieving investor goals.... more
Sanjay Question by Sanjay on Dec 04, 2023Hindi
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Sir my wife is working in school Her PF was deducted under EPF Now her school has given her reemployment on adhoc basis and her PF is still deducted. As she has attained the age of 58her deductions are not taken in EPS. How can she get her pension as date of retirement under EPS and EPF are to be mentioned as same as her EPF is still being deducted

Ans: Please check if the EPF contribution after deduction is indeed credited to her EPF account especially after superannuation at 58 and reappointment thereafter on adhoc basis.

Date of exit for EPF and EPS may need not be the same.
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Sir thank you for your prompt reply. I have the following queries: 1. As I have completed 10 years of service, can I still withdraw complete EPS amount. 2. For getting pension immediately after retirement as I understand I need to fill form 10D. Can this form be filed online also. 3. After I retire when should I submit the form 10D to EPFO Office to start getting pension. 4. I would be retiring on 30th April 2024 so for how many years can I earn interest on my EPF Account without withdrawing it and what would be my last date by which I should apply for the claim. 5. While applying for the EPF Account after the maximum extended period possible can I apply for the claim online. Thanking you in advance.
Ans: Certainly! Let’s address your queries regarding the Employees’ Pension Scheme (EPS) and the process for pension withdrawal:

EPS Withdrawal After 10 Years of Service:
If you have completed less than 10 years of service or have attained the age of 58 years (whichever is earlier), you are eligible for lump-sum withdrawal from your EPS account.
However, if you have completed 10 or more years of service, you cannot withdraw the EPS amount. Instead, you can opt for a Scheme Certificate by filling Form 10C along with the Composite Claim Form (Aadhaar or Non-Aadhaar).
The Scheme Certificate allows you to transfer your pension benefits if you join another employment later.
Pension will be paid to you after attaining the age of 58 years123.
Filing Form 10D for Immediate Pension:
To receive pension immediately after retirement, you need to fill Form 10D.
Unfortunately, Form 10D cannot be filed online. You’ll need to submit it physically to the EPFO Office.
Submission of Form 10D:
After your retirement, submit Form 10D to the EPFO Office to initiate the process of receiving pension.
Ensure that you complete all necessary documentation accurately.
Interest on EPF Account:
Until you decide to withdraw your EPF amount, it continues to earn interest.
As of now, the interest rate is determined by the EPFO and is subject to change periodically.
Since you are retiring on 30th April 2024, you can continue earning interest until you decide to claim your EPF.
Claiming EPF Account After Maximum Extended Period:
After the maximum extended period (usually 3 years of inactivity), you can still apply for EPF withdrawal.
While the process may not be available online, you can submit the necessary forms physically to the EPFO Office.
Remember to consult with your employer or the EPFO directly for any specific details related to your individual case. Best wishes for your retirement!

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My Wife's pf amount is still not with drawn. She got retired on 07-06-24. So after 3 years can we opt for EPS pension instead of with drawing the money. What will be the pension amount likely on the PF amount of Rs 12 Lakhs
Ans: Let’s go through your concern in a very structured, detailed, and practical way. You’re asking about EPS pension eligibility for your wife, who retired on 07-06-2024 and has not withdrawn her PF yet. You also want to know whether she can opt for EPS pension after 3 years and how much pension she could expect on a PF amount of Rs 12 lakhs.

Here’s a complete, 360-degree perspective for you:

Understanding the Difference Between EPF and EPS

EPF is your provident fund savings account

It builds a retirement corpus, grows with interest

EPS is the pension scheme under EPF

It gives monthly pension after retirement

Contribution towards EPS is separate from EPF

Out of the employer’s 12% contribution, 8.33% goes into EPS (subject to salary cap)

Eligibility for EPS Pension

To get EPS pension, minimum 10 years of eligible service is required

Retirement age for full pension is 58 years

One can opt for reduced pension after age 50

If PF is not withdrawn, service continues to be counted

So, yes, she can apply for EPS pension even after 3 years

She just needs to keep the EPF account untouched

This is a valid approach used by many retirees

What Happens If You Withdraw Now

If you withdraw EPS amount now, you lose lifelong monthly pension

You only receive the lump sum EPS portion

Once withdrawn, pension option is no longer available

This decision is final and cannot be reversed later

So it’s wise to pause and assess pension eligibility properly

How EPS Pension Is Calculated

Pension depends on two factors:

Pensionable salary: average of last 60 months' basic + DA

Pensionable service: total years of contribution into EPS

The pension is calculated as:
(Pensionable salary x Pensionable service years) ÷ 70

For example, with Rs 15,000 pensionable salary and 20 years of service:
(15,000 x 20) ÷ 70 = Rs 4,285 approx per month

If pension is taken before 58, amount is reduced by 4% per year

So, if taken at 55, pension will be reduced by 12%

Is Rs 12 Lakhs in PF Relevant for EPS Pension?

The PF corpus (Rs 12 lakhs) is not used directly in EPS pension calculation

That is your wife’s savings in the provident fund

EPS contribution is small and fixed — not linked to total PF balance

Only her years of EPS contribution and pensionable salary matter

What to Do Now – Step-by-Step

Confirm Service Period & EPS Contribution

Login to her UAN portal

Download PF Passbook

Check how many years she was under EPS coverage

Check if she crossed 10 years of service (minimum for pension)

Decide on Withdrawal vs Pension

If she needs a large amount now, withdrawing may look attractive

But long-term, monthly pension gives stable cash flow

If no urgent need, it is better to wait

Timing Is Crucial

Waiting till 58 gives full pension

If pension is started at 55, there is a permanent 12% reduction

For every year after 58, pension increases by 4%

Plan as per income needs and inflation

Apply for EPS Pension

Use Form 10D

Submit online on EPFO portal or offline at EPF office

Pension will be credited monthly to her bank account

A Look at Practical Scenarios

Let’s assume the pensionable salary is capped at Rs 15,000
If she has contributed to EPS for 20 years:
Pension = (15,000 x 20) ÷ 70 = Rs 4,285/month

If she opts at age 55 (3 years early):
Pension gets reduced by 12% → Approx Rs 3,770/month

If she waits till 58:
She can receive full pension without reduction

If she waits till 59 or 60:
She gets 4% increase for each year → Higher monthly pension

These numbers are approximate, not final
Exact pension is decided by EPFO after processing her Form 10D

How to Plan With the EPF Balance (Rs 12 Lakhs)

Rs 12 lakhs is a good amount of retirement corpus

This can be withdrawn or kept to earn EPF interest till age 58

After withdrawal, reinvest this in actively managed mutual funds

Do not park it in low-return savings accounts

You can create SWP (Systematic Withdrawal Plan) from mutual funds

This gives monthly cash flow just like pension, but better returns

Why You Should Avoid Index Funds

Index funds just copy the index, do not beat it

During volatile times, they fall fully with the market

No expert fund manager to protect your capital

They do not adjust sector allocations

You may get stuck in bad sectors like PSU or small caps

Active funds are managed with strategy and analysis

They offer downside protection and better long-term growth

For retired life, protection from loss is more important than hype

Why You Should Avoid Direct Mutual Funds

Direct funds offer no guidance or handholding

You miss rebalancing and timely reviews

You also carry behavioural risk of panic selling during crashes

Investing through a MFD backed by a Certified Financial Planner is safer

You get expert planning, fund selection, tax guidance and review

Long-term performance improves through behavioural discipline and strategy

Emotional Angle – Planning Together

Make these decisions jointly with your wife

Discuss monthly cash flow needs honestly

Decide how much you need from pension and how much from investment

Involve your children if needed

Retirement is a phase where teamwork matters more

Final Insights

Yes, your wife can opt for EPS pension even after 3 years of retirement

She must not withdraw PF now if she wants to be eligible

Confirm service years and pensionable salary through UAN portal

EPS pension may be approx Rs 3,770 to Rs 4,285/month based on timing

Withdraw PF only when needed, then invest smartly in mutual funds

Avoid index and direct funds – go with expert-guided active funds

This creates peace of mind and better retirement safety

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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Hi i am 40M. would request your help to understand what should be the corpus required for retirement as i want to get retired in next 3-5yrs. currently my take home is 2.3L monthly & my wife also works but leaving the job in next 2-3 months. we have a daughter 10yrs, currently i stay on rent and total monthly expense is 1.1L month. once i will retire we will shift in our own parental flat, where hopefully there will be no rent. current Investments 1. 50L in REC bonds getting matured in 2029 2. 42L in stocks 3. 17L in MF 4. 16L FD 5. 15L in PPF 6. 1.3L SIP monthly i do My Wife Investments 1. 30L corpus 2. flat with current value 40L and we get rental of 10K monthly. Please guide what should be the retirement corpus required combined to retire, assuming i need 75L for my daughter post grad and marriage and we would be requiring 75K monthly for our expenses after retiring
Ans: You have explained your income, goals, current assets, and future plans with great clarity. Your early planning spirit is strong. This gives a very good base. You can reach a peaceful retirement with smart steps in the next few years.

» Your Current Position

You are 40 years old. You plan to retire in 3 to 5 years. You earn Rs 2.3 lakh per month. Your wife also works but will stop working soon. You have one daughter aged 10. Your current monthly cost is around Rs 1.1 lakh. This cost will reduce after retirement because you will shift to your parental flat.

Your investment base is already good. You have saved in bonds, stocks, mutual funds, PPF, FD, and SIP. Your wife also has her own savings and rental income from a flat. All these create a good starting point.

This early base helps you plan stronger. It also gives room for more shaping. You are on the right road.

» Your Family Goals

You need Rs 75 lakh for your daughter’s higher education and marriage.

You want Rs 75,000 per month for family living after retirement.

You want to retire in 3 to 5 years.

You will shift to your parental flat after retirement.

You will have rental income of Rs 10,000 from your wife’s flat.

These goals are clear. They give direction. They allow a strong plan.

» Your Present Investments

Your investments include:

Rs 50 lakh in REC bonds maturing in 2029.

Rs 42 lakh in stocks.

Rs 17 lakh in mutual funds.

Rs 16 lakh in fixed deposits.

Rs 15 lakh in PPF.

Rs 1.3 lakh as monthly SIP.

Your wife holds:

Rs 30 lakh corpus.

A flat worth Rs 40 lakh with rent of Rs 10,000 each month.

Your combined net worth is healthy. This gives good power to build your retirement fund in the coming years.

» Understanding Your Expense Need After Retirement

You expect Rs 75,000 per month after retirement. This includes all basic needs. You will not have rent. That reduces cost. This assumption looks fair today.

Your cost will rise with inflation. So you must plan for rising needs. A strong retirement corpus must support rising cost for 40 to 45 years because you are retiring early.

An early retirement needs a large buffer. So you need safety along with growth. Your plan must include growth assets and safety assets.

» How Much Monthly Income You Will Need Later

Rs 75,000 per month is Rs 9 lakh per year. In future years, this cost can rise. If we assume steady rise, your future cost will be much higher.

So the retirement corpus must be designed to:

Give monthly income.

Beat inflation.

Support you for 40 to 45 years.

Protect your family even in market down cycles.

Allow flexibility if your needs change.

A strong retirement fund must support both safety and long-term growth.

» How Much Corpus You Should Target

A safe target is a large and flexible corpus that can support long years without running out of money. For early retirement, the usual thumb rule suggests a very high number. This is because you need income for many decades.

You need a corpus big enough to produce rising income. You also need a cushion for unexpected health costs, lifestyle shocks, and inflation changes.

Your target retirement corpus should be in a strong range. For your needs of Rs 75,000 per month and for goals like daughter’s education and marriage, you should aim for a combined retirement readiness corpus in the higher bracket.

A safe range for your family would be a very large number crossing multiple crores. This large range gives you:

Income safety.

Inflation protection.

Peace during market cycles.

Comfort in long life.

Room for daughter’s future.

Strong backup for health.

You are already on the way due to your existing assets. You will reach close to this range with systematic building over the next 3 to 5 years.

» Why You Need This Larger Corpus

You will retire early. That means more years of living from your corpus. Your corpus must not fall early. It must grow even after retirement. It must give monthly income and long-term family protection.

This is only possible when the corpus is strong and well-structured. A weak corpus creates stress. A strong corpus creates freedom.

Also, your daughter’s future cost must be kept aside. This must be parked in a separate fund. This must not touch your retirement money.

A strong corpus makes these two worlds separate and safe.

» Your Existing Assets and Their Strength

You already have good diversification:

Bonds give safety.

Stocks give growth.

Mutual funds give managed growth.

FD gives stability.

PPF gives tax-free long-term savings.

This blend is already a good start. But you need to make the blend more structured for early retirement.

Your Rs 1.3 lakh monthly SIP is also strong. It builds your future fast. You should continue.

Your wife’s rental income is small but steady. This adds strength.

Your combined financial base can reach your retirement target if you refine your allocation now.

» Your Daughter’s Future Fund Need

You need Rs 75 lakh for your daughter’s education and marriage. You should keep this goal separate from your retirement goal.

Your current SIP and future allocations should create a dedicated fund for this goal. A long-term fund can grow well when managed actively.

Do not mix this fund with your retirement needs. Mixing leads to shortage in old age. Always keep this corpus ring-fenced.

» A Strong Asset Mix For Your Retirement Path

A balanced mix is needed. You need growth assets to beat inflation. You also need stable assets for income.

You must avoid index funds because they do not give flexibility. Index funds follow a fixed index. They cannot make active changes in different markets. They cannot move to better stocks when markets change. They force you to stay in weak sectors for long. They also do not help you in down cycles because they cannot protect you by shifting to safer options. This can hurt retirement planning.

Actively managed funds are better because:

They give active asset selection.

They give scope for better returns.

They give flexibility to change sectors.

They give downside management.

They give access to a skilled fund manager.

They support long-term planning more safely.

Direct plans also carry risk. Direct plans do not give guidance. They do not give behavioural support. They do not give market timing help. They do not give portfolio shaping. They leave all the judgement to you. One mistake can cost years of wealth.

Regular plans with guidance from a Certified Financial Planner help you shape decisions. They help you remain disciplined. They help you avoid panic. They help you decide allocation changes at the right time. This saves wealth in long-term.

» How Your Investment Journey Should Grow in the Next 3–5 Years

Continue your SIP.

Increase SIP when your income rises.

Shift part of your stock holding into planned long-term mutual funds to reduce concentration risk.

Build a defined daughter’s education fund.

Keep a part of your REC bond maturity amount for long-term.

Avoid locking too much into fixed deposits for long periods.

Build a safety fund for one year of expenses.

This will create a full structure.

» Your Rental Income Role

Your rental income of Rs 10,000 per month is small but steady. Over time it will rise. This income will support your monthly cash flow after retirement.

You can use this for utilities or health insurance premiums. This gives a cushion.

» Your Emergency Buffer

You should keep at least one year of essential cost in a safe place. This can be in a liquid account or short-term fund. This protects you in shocks.

Since you plan early retirement, a strong buffer is important. It gives peace even in low months.

» A Structured Retirement Approach

A complete retirement plan for you should include:

A clear monthly income plan after retirement.

A corpus that can grow and protect.

A rising income system that matches inflation.

A separate daughter’s future fund.

A health cover plan for your family.

A tax-efficient withdrawal plan.

A market cycle plan to protect you in tough times.

This holistic approach keeps your family strong for decades.

» What You Should Build by Retirement Year

Your aim should be to reach a strong multi-crore range in investments before retirement. You already hold a large amount. You will add more in the next 3 to 5 years through SIP, stock growth, bond maturity, and disciplined saving.

Once you reach your target range, you can start the shifting process:

Move a part to stable assets.

Keep a part in long-term growth assets.

Create a monthly income strategy.

Keep a reserve bucket.

Keep a child future bucket.

Keep a long-term growth bucket.

This structure protects you in all market conditions.

» Final Insights

Your financial journey is already strong. You have a good income. You have saved well. You have multiple asset types. You have a clear timeline. And you have clear goals. This foundation is solid.

In the next 3 to 5 years, your focus should be on growing your combined corpus to a strong multi-crore range, keeping a separate fund for your daughter, reducing risk in unplanned assets, and building a stable long-term structure.

With the present path and a disciplined structure, you can retire peacefully and support your family with confidence for many decades.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in

https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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