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Hello Team, I have clarification w.r.t Insurance and please find my details below 12-Jul-2023: Second Child born 10-Aug-2023: Floater Policy(2 Adults and 1 Child) took as suggested by Agent with 3 years Premium Second child cannot be added due to minimum eligibility days Agent recommended to add 2nd child after 60days and difference premium to be paid After 90 days (not sure about the date): Tried to add 2nd child to the policy through agent but it was not able to done Agent suggested that "We can add it in next year (i.e during Start of August 2024) 10-Aug-2024: When checked with Star health, they said that "Addition/deletion can be done at 2026" and said that "Addition of child should be done through mail after 91 days and website will not support to add a child" and when I asked the document reference for the same and no response yet from Star Health Current Policy holding: Corporate Insurane : SI (3L) for 2 Adults and 2 Childs Personal Insurance : SI (25L) for 2 Adults and 1 Child Star Health Suggestion: Take a separate policy for 2nd Child for 5L and it can be added to existing policy in 2026. Please let me know how to proceed further 1. Whether the Separate policy can be taken here or wait until 2026, to add the 2nd child 2. Whether the Star Health was really worth or can I consider for porting in 2026 due to disappointment with above issue Thank you in advance!

Ans: I suggest you go ahead with the separate health policy for the new child as of now. Going further if you still find their service quality level poor you can decide about porting suitably.
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Hi I have taken an insurance Policy : Click 2 Protect 3D policy. its a combi policy where Term Insurance is from HDFC Life and Health Insurance from ERGO (In first year it was Apollo Munich). Its been 5 years since I have been paying the premiums, every year the health premium increased. Recently I paid 32k as premium where initially it was 26k. here Term is around 12K odd, rest is for health. My first issue is like I feel I am being charged more for less benefits, the insurance covers my Wife and two kids (7 years) and me. By God Grace till date its no claim policy. The base cover is 3L and added benefits is 3L. I see , their counter parts offer more benefits for such an amount say 20K. i tried to shift to Star but portability denied saying it is not possible since it is combined policy. Here i want more cover or able to port to other service provider. plz suggest.
Ans: I understand your concerns about the Click 2 Protect 3D policy and your desire for either more coverage or the ability to switch providers. Here's what you can explore:

Increased Premiums and Coverage:

Review your Policy: Carefully examine your policy document to understand the breakdown of the premium between term insurance (HDFC Life) and health insurance (ERGO). This will help you assess if the health coverage benefits justify the increasing cost.
Contact HDFC Life and ERGO: Reach out to both HDFC Life (for term insurance) and ERGO (for health insurance) to inquire about possible options for increasing your sum assured (coverage amount) within the existing plan. This might lead to a higher premium, but it would also provide greater financial protection.
Portability Limitations:

Combined Policy Challenges: You're right; combined term and health insurance policies like Click 2 Protect 3D can be difficult to port due to their integrated nature. While individual term insurance plans are generally portable, porting health components often faces challenges.
Alternative Solutions:

Consider Separate Policies: Explore the possibility of purchasing separate term life insurance (potentially with a higher sum assured) and a new health insurance plan from another provider that better suits your needs and budget. This might involve surrendering the Click 2 Protect 3D policy, but it could offer more flexibility and potentially lower costs in the long run.
Negotiate with HDFC Life and ERGO: You could try negotiating with HDFC Life and ERGO to see if they can offer a more competitive premium or increased coverage within the existing plan.
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Compare Online Quotes: Use online insurance comparison platforms to get quotes for separate term life and health insurance plans from different providers. This can help you compare coverage options and premiums.
Focus on Needs, Not Just Cost: While cost is important, prioritize getting adequate coverage for your term and health needs. Don't compromise on coverage just to get a lower premium.
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Carefully review the terms and conditions of any new policy before purchasing.
Consider factors like your age, health condition, and family needs when determining your required coverage amount.
By thoroughly evaluating your current plan, exploring alternatives, and comparing options, you can make an informed decision about whether to adjust your Click 2 Protect 3D policy or switch to separate plans for better coverage or affordability.

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Hi I have taken an insurance Policy : Click 2 Protect 3D policy. its a combi policy where Term Insurance is from HDFC Life and Health Insurance from ERGO (In first year it was Apollo Munich). Its been 5 years since I have been paying the premiums, every year the health premium increased. Recently I paid 60k as premium where initially it was 54k. here Term is around 18K odd, rest is for health. I feel I am being charged more for lesser benefits, the insurance covers my wife and two kids (9 years) and me. By God's Grace till date its no claim policy. The base cover is 4L and added benefits is 4L. I see , their counter parties offer more benefits for such an amount say 40K. i tried to shift to Star Health but portability denied saying it is not possible since it is combined policy. Here i want more cover or able to port to other service provider. What shall I do?
Ans: It's understandable that you're concerned about the increasing premiums and the perceived lack of benefits in your current insurance policy. Here are some steps you can consider:

• Review Your Policy Documents: Make sure to thoroughly review your insurance policy documents. Understand the terms and conditions, coverage details, and any clauses related to premium increases. It's essential to be aware of the specifics of your current policy before making any decisions.
• Compare Policies: Compare the benefits and premiums of your current policy with those offered by other insurance providers in the market. Look for policies that provide similar or better coverage at a more reasonable cost. Take into account the coverage for both term insurance and health insurance.
• Contact Your Current Provider: Reach out to HDFC Life and ERGO to discuss your concerns. Inquire about the reasons for the premium increase and whether there are any options to customise your policy to better suit your needs without compromising coverage. Sometimes, providers may have different plans or options that could better fit your requirements.
• Explore Portability Again: Since you mentioned that Star Health denied portability, consider reaching out to other insurance providers to explore portability options. Different providers may have different policies on porting combined policies, and it's worth checking with multiple companies.
• Seek Professional Advice: Consult with a financial advisor or insurance expert to get personalised advice based on your specific situation. They can help you understand the nuances of your policy, assess your needs, and guide you on the best course of action.
• Consider Separate Policies: If portability remains challenging, you may explore the option of having separate term insurance and health insurance policies from different providers. This way, you can tailor each policy to your specific needs and potentially save on costs.
• Stay Informed About Regulatory Changes: Keep yourself informed about any regulatory changes in the insurance industry that may impact your policy. Sometimes, regulatory changes can affect premium calculations or portability options.

Remember that making changes to insurance policies requires careful consideration, and it's crucial to ensure that you maintain adequate coverage for your family's needs. Always read the terms and conditions of any new policy thoroughly before making a decision. If needed, seek legal or financial advice to make an informed decision.

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Regarding plan migration feasibility you may check with your insurer/insurance agent.

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I am 31 years, unmarried bachelor and lead celibacy. I have investment in equity mutual fund growth option cost of which is 20 lacs now valued at 45 lacs. I don't require this for next 30 years and reserve it for my retirement. Do I need to save now for retirement, or can I spend 99% of my current earning as I have a retirement corpus of Rs.45 lacs at current value. I have life cover of 1.5 cr and for health Rs.40 lacs and comfortably earning from MNC for my survival, healthy with no bad habits and lead a disciplined and minimalist life style. Please guide me do I need more retirement corpus, or the accumulated Corpus is enough for retirement. If so how much more corpus do i need?
Ans: You have shown excellent discipline. At age 31, you already have Rs.45 lacs in equity mutual funds. That’s a rare position to be in.

You lead a minimalist life. You are healthy. You don’t have dependents. You are earning well. You are living with purpose and clarity.

Still, retirement planning is not only about a lump sum today. It also needs a 360-degree analysis.

Let us now evaluate in detail if this Rs.45 lacs is enough for your retirement.

We will assess from lifestyle, inflation, investment risk, tax rules, personal values, and health perspective.

We will also answer your main question: Can you spend 99% of your earnings now?

Retirement Planning Is Not Only About Current Corpus
Rs.45 lacs looks large now. But you are 31. Retirement is 29 years away.

A rupee today won’t have the same value 30 years later.

With inflation, prices can rise 5x or even more by then.

Your current Rs.45 lacs may not buy much in 2054.

So it is not enough to just grow. It must grow faster than inflation.

What If You Don’t Add Any More Investment?
If you don’t invest any more for retirement now, your Rs.45 lacs must grow for 30 years.

Let us assess few key points:

If the investment is fully in equity, volatility is high.

Long-term returns can be rewarding, but not always predictable.

Also, equity mutual funds attract capital gains tax.

New rule: LTCG above Rs.1.25 lakh taxed at 12.5%.

This will reduce the final retirement corpus.

So you cannot assume all returns will be tax-free.

Impact of Inflation on Lifestyle
You are minimalist today. But that may not be the case at 60.

Even basic costs like food, rent, medicine, utilities will go up.

At 6% inflation, Rs.25,000 monthly expenses today may become Rs.1.5 lacs after 30 years.

Medical inflation is higher. You may need Rs.5 lacs per year for healthcare alone at retirement.

So the same Rs.45 lacs will lose value every year.

What If You Live Longer?
Longevity is increasing in India. You may live till 90 or 95.

That means 30 years working and 30+ years retired.

So retirement may last longer than your working life.

Your money has to work for you after 60.

Even a Rs.3 crore corpus at retirement may fall short if not planned properly.

Health Cover and Life Cover Are Good
Rs.1.5 crore term insurance is good.

Rs.40 lacs health cover is excellent. Keep renewing it.

But insurance is not a substitute for retirement planning.

Also, insurance does not build wealth.

You Have Time on Your Side
You are 31. That gives you 30 years to grow your corpus.

That is your biggest strength.

Small, consistent investing now can multiply your corpus over 30 years.

Even Rs.10,000 per month extra can change your future.

Can You Spend 99% of Earnings?
It is not wise to spend 99% of earnings even with Rs.45 lacs corpus.

It makes your life dependent on just one investment.

Also, it leaves no buffer for job loss, health crisis, or early retirement.

Spending most of your income will reduce your financial freedom later.

Risks of Not Saving Enough
Future jobs may not pay this well.

You may face burnout or wish to retire early.

Markets may not perform as expected.

Emergencies may force early withdrawal.

Expenses can rise unexpectedly.

What Should Be the Ideal Retirement Corpus?
There is no fixed number. It depends on your lifestyle.

Still, we can estimate based on some broad assumptions:

A basic retirement needs at least Rs.4 to 5 crores at age 60.

A comfortable life with travel, hobbies, and good healthcare needs Rs.6 to 8 crores.

A rich life with freedom and legacy needs Rs.10 crores or more.

You may not need all of it. But you must aim higher and stay flexible.

How Much More Corpus You Need?
You already have Rs.45 lacs.

Assuming 10% annual return, and no withdrawal for 30 years:

Your current Rs.45 lacs can become Rs.8 crores in 30 years.

But tax and inflation will reduce its value.

After adjusting, this may be worth only Rs.3 to 4 crores in real terms.

So yes, you are on the right path. But you are not done yet.

Should You Stop Saving Now?
No. Stopping now is not safe.

You should continue to invest at least 20% to 30% of income.

You don’t need to be aggressive.

But you must not stop completely.

Advantages of Continuing SIPs in Actively Managed Mutual Funds
Actively managed funds are more responsive to market changes.

They are driven by research and fund manager insights.

They can beat inflation better than passive options.

They help create real wealth over time.

You can invest through mutual fund distributor with CFP. That gives expert help.

Disadvantages of Direct Mutual Fund Investing
Direct funds seem cheaper. But they miss the human touch.

No professional reviews. No behavioural guidance.

You may exit in panic or enter at wrong time.

Mistakes in direct investing are costly.

Regular funds via a Certified Financial Planner offer support, reviews, and strategy.

Financial Planning Is Not Just About Corpus
Financial planning is lifelong.

You need a written retirement plan.

Include health, taxes, estate, and liquidity in that plan.

Set goals every 5 years and review progress.

Don’t think of corpus only. Think of financial independence.

Your Current Strengths
Strong investment of Rs.45 lacs

No dependents or liabilities

High income and low expenses

Health insurance and term cover

Discipline and minimalism

What You Can Do Now
Continue SIPs in actively managed funds via expert help

Review portfolio yearly with a Certified Financial Planner

Create a written retirement plan

Don’t touch your Rs.45 lacs till 60

Save 30% of income. Enjoy 70%.

Finally
You are doing well. You already have Rs.45 lacs at age 31. That shows foresight.

But retirement is not a fixed-point goal. It is a moving target with inflation and uncertainty.

You must not stop saving. Keep adding regularly. Small steps now can lead to a rich future.

Aim to build a Rs.6 to 8 crore corpus. That gives you safety, comfort, and peace.

Spending 99% now is risky. Don’t do that. Instead, reward yourself within limits. But keep investing for freedom.

Discipline today gives freedom tomorrow.

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K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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Asked by Anonymous - May 09, 2025
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Sir, we had a dispute in our ancestral property we approached the court and the verdict said we are entitled to a portion of the property The dispute was the land was sold without our knowledge etc., after getting the verdict we got patta, registration in our name. Now we are planning to sell the land, a lawyer said get a ratification deed, I don't know what it is and also weather it is needed or not. The lawyer called us and said the the other party who has purchased the land illegally is not agreeing to sign and is asking money to settle the matter as he has purchased the land. Even after receiving court orders this kind of dodging is happening. The amount of money he is asking is senseless, even if I sell the land I wouldn't get that much amount, I am unable to put in writing many other problems kindly advise what next steps to take. also let me know what are all the documents to have as a owner. Thank you
Ans: You have taken rightful steps. Court verdict is in your favour. That shows your legal ground is strong.

But still, the other party is asking for money. That too, an unfair amount. You also mentioned a lawyer suggested getting a ratification deed. Let us try to understand the full situation and assess all possible options. We will also cover what documents are needed to prove your ownership.

This reply gives you a 360-degree view. It will help you make a sound and confident decision.

Understanding Your Current Legal Standing
You said the land was sold without your knowledge. That makes the original sale illegal. The court has agreed with you. That is a key win for you.

You now have patta and registration in your name. These are strong documents. They show you have legal title.

Based on this, you are now the legal owner. That means you have the full right to sell the land. But the buyer must also be confident. So legal clarity is very important.

What Is a Ratification Deed?
A ratification deed is a It confirms a past act done without proper authority. The current party gives approval to that act.

In your case, it seems the buyer who bought the land earlier is being asked to “ratify” that sale. That is, to agree that you are the rightful owner now.

This is not a mandatory document by law. But it is sometimes used to make the title stronger. Some buyers or their banks ask for it.

However, since the court has already ruled in your favour, you may not legally need it. You already have the stronger claim.

Why Is the Buyer Still Causing Issues?
The person who bought the land earlier might feel he lost money. He may think the sale to him was legal. But since the court disagreed, he now holds no right.

His demand for money is unjust. It is a pressure tactic. He is trying to recover his loss by troubling you.

You are not legally required to pay him. He has no power to stop your sale.

Assessing Options Now
You can now evaluate your next steps from three angles – legal, practical, and financial.

Legal Options
Talk to your lawyer again. Ask: is a ratification deed mandatory in your case?

Get a written legal opinion. This should clearly mention your rights and position.

File a complaint if the other party is threatening you or asking money.

Send a legal notice through your lawyer to that person. Mention that he has no right now.

Practical Options
Try selling to a buyer who trusts the court order. Show them all documents.

Explain clearly that title is clean. Show the judgment, patta, and registration.

Use a reputed real estate lawyer for the sale. That gives buyers more confidence.

Financial Assessment
Do not agree to pay huge amounts. It may cause loss for you.

If needed, consider a small settlement. But only after full legal review. And only if it makes the sale smooth and quick.

Ask yourself: Even if I settle, will the person agree to give in writing? If not, don’t pay.

Must-Have Documents to Sell the Land
As a rightful owner, you must hold the following papers:

Patta in your name (this is land ownership proof)

Registered sale deed or title deed (issued after the court judgment)

Copy of the court verdict

Encumbrance Certificate (EC) (shows your name as the current legal holder)

Legal heir certificate, if you inherited the land

Property tax receipts in your name

Aadhar and PAN card copies

Suggested Steps to Make Sale Smooth
Get a detailed Title Certificate from a lawyer. It should mention the court case and outcome.

Keep a summary note ready. It should explain how you became owner.

Ensure name match across all your documents.

Keep a certified copy of court order with you at all times.

Use a reputed property consultant or broker only if needed. Prefer buyers who are local and familiar with such cases.

Emotional and Mental Pressure
You also mentioned you are facing many other issues. That is understandable. Land disputes take a heavy toll on health and peace of mind.

Please do not worry. You already have legal strength.

You have cleared a big milestone by getting the court’s support.

Don’t allow fear or threats to stop you.

Stay strong. Keep family informed. Talk regularly with your lawyer.

How Certified Financial Planner Can Help
A Certified Financial Planner (CFP) can guide you better with your sale proceeds.

If you plan to sell, prepare a written cash flow plan.

Think about your family’s short-term and long-term needs.

Keep emergency funds aside. Don’t invest all money at once.

Mutual funds managed by professional advisors can be considered. They offer long-term wealth building.

What Not To Do
Do not deal in cash. Always use cheque or bank transfer.

Do not sign any paper without lawyer check.

Do not get emotionally disturbed by their false threats.

Do not delay your next steps due to confusion or fear.

Finally
You have shown good courage. You followed the legal process. You now own the land as per law.

The other party is only trying to misuse your fear. Do not fall for it.

If the buyer still refuses to cooperate, avoid them. Choose another buyer.

If a ratification deed is insisted by your new buyer, ask your lawyer: Is it really needed?

If not needed, move ahead without it.

If needed, try again to convince the other person. If they demand unreasonable money, don’t agree.

Let your lawyer send notice. You can also explore police help if needed.

Always work with proper documents. Keep everything in writing.

Keep calm and move forward. With legal support and proper documents, you will win.

If you need help with managing the money after sale, we can help with a long-term financial plan.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,
www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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