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Harshal Question by Harshal on Oct 27, 2024Hindi
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Sir,I became to cyber fraud in regards to Telegram Prepaid Task where I was deceived and manipulated by the fraudsters under their false pretenses that they were offering me a part time work from home job .I transferred Rs 86000/- to them.I reported to the same to my Indian Bank within 3 days according to RBI guidelines via a phone call to my branch manager but he did not take my complaint initially over the phone and rudely said to visit branch.then on the 4th day I visited branch along with necessary documents and police complaint copy and a written application informing the details of fraud transaction.I also got shadow reversal in account of Rs86000/- which was reflecting as a hold or lien balance in my account then I was to advised by the manager to wait for 1 or 1 and a half month till the investigation gets completed and then he will verify the same and credit the same into my account but they did not do anything for 1 month 6 days till I again visited branch to know that the said manager got transferred to another branch and new assigned branch manager did not knew anything I again submitted a complaint and then they raised a charge back which was rejected by the beneficiary bank stating that there is no balance in the beneficiary or fraudsters account .I complained to RBI but even RBI supported bank and held me responsible and now bank also closed and rejected my claim and that shadow reversal also has been reversed by them..what shall I do?

Ans: I'm truly sorry to hear about your experience with this fraud. Cyber scams, especially in the name of part-time jobs, have become increasingly common. While you've followed the required steps, the response from the bank and RBI can be frustrating. Here’s a structured approach to help you pursue your case further:

1. File an FIR with the Cyber Crime Police Station
Since you've already filed a police complaint, ensure it’s registered as an FIR (First Information Report) if it wasn’t initially.

Visit the Cyber Crime Police Station in your city or use the National Cyber Crime Reporting Portal (cybercrime.gov.in). Online reports are also possible.

Cyber crime units often coordinate directly with banks, so they might offer additional support. The sooner they receive the full complaint, the better the chance to trace the transaction trail.

2. Gather Complete Documentation
Compile all relevant documents: initial complaints to the bank, emails, SMS messages, screenshots of Telegram conversations, bank statements showing the transaction, RBI complaint letters, and any other related correspondence.

This documentation will provide a thorough record of events, which is helpful for authorities and any additional escalations you make.

3. Escalate with the Banking Ombudsman
File a complaint with the Banking Ombudsman under the Reserve Bank of India if you haven't done so already. This is a separate avenue that might yield a different result.

To initiate, visit the RBI’s Banking Ombudsman page and follow the complaint process. Ensure your complaint is detailed, mentioning dates, bank interactions, and the specific RBI guidelines under which you initially acted.

4. Send a Legal Notice to the Bank
If the Banking Ombudsman process does not yield results, you may consider sending a legal notice to the bank. This may compel them to reconsider their stance.

Contact a lawyer who specializes in consumer or banking matters. The lawyer will draft a legal notice mentioning the bank's failure to act as per the initial commitment made by the branch manager.

Sometimes, this step pushes banks to act, as they prefer to avoid further legal disputes.

5. Approach the Consumer Forum
If the above steps don’t help, you may consider filing a complaint with the Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum in your district or state.

Since you suffered financial loss due to what may be considered negligence or delay from the bank's side, the Consumer Forum might provide some relief or compensation.

Provide all documentation and details, especially focusing on the timeline of events and the initial shadow reversal placed on your account.

6. Alert the Cyber Cell and RBI Ombudsman about Fraud Trends
To help prevent further fraud, report this Telegram scam with details to the Cyber Cell and the RBI fraud department. This may lead to a warning to banks about specific types of scams, potentially benefitting other customers in the future.
7. Stay Cautious of Follow-up Scams
Fraudsters sometimes target those affected by previous scams with promises of refunds. Stay cautious about any unsolicited communication that claims to assist with recovering the funds for an additional fee or transaction.
Finally: Be persistent and patient as you follow each step. Given the increasing number of cyber fraud cases, authorities are becoming more proactive in tackling these issues, but the process can be lengthy.

Best of luck with your efforts, and I hope your funds are recovered soon.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in
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Ans: You're absolutely right to be following up on this fraudulent transaction. Here's a breakdown of the situation and potential next steps:

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Time Sensitivity: Acting quickly after a fraudulent transaction increases the chance of recovery. You've done well by reporting it within an hour to your bank and cybercrime authorities.
OTP Verification: Since the transaction was authorized with your OTP, retrieving the funds might be difficult. However, it's still important to pursue all avenues.
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Follow Up with Bank: While the bank might initially say it's beyond their control, be persistent. Request to escalate your complaint and speak with a supervisor or fraud department representative. Explain the fraudulent nature of the transaction and the promptness of your reporting.
Cybercrime Investigation: Cooperate fully with the cybercrime investigation. Provide any additional information they request and maintain communication.
RBI Complaint: If the bank remains unhelpful, consider filing a formal complaint with the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) Ombudsman. Here's the link to file a complaint with the RBI Ombudsman: [RBI Ombudsman Complaint ???? ????]https://rbi.org.in/Scripts/Complaints.aspx
Dispute with IndusInd Bank: While they might not share beneficiary details due to privacy regulations, you can try filing a dispute with IndusInd Bank, stating the fraudulent transaction and requesting a reversal.
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Gather Evidence: Maintain copies of your complaint documents, cybercrime FIR (First Information Report), and all communication with banks and authorities.
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While recovering the funds might be challenging, your prompt actions increase your chances. Persistence and following the recommended steps can help.

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Ans: It's unfortunate that you've faced this situation. You acted correctly by involving the legal process. The bank's delay is indeed concerning.

Bank’s Delayed Response
The court’s order was clear, and the bank’s delay caused a significant loss. Timely action by the bank might have resulted in full recovery.

Consider Involving RBI Again
Given the circumstances, it would be prudent to involve RBI once more. You should explain the loss incurred due to the delay in their action. It is essential to request RBI’s intervention to ensure the bank fulfills its responsibilities.

Legal Advice Option
You may also consider consulting with a legal expert. They can guide you on whether further legal action against the bank is possible.

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Your efforts were commendable, and your next steps should focus on accountability. Holding the bank responsible for its delay is important.

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I am glad to hear that she has completed her MSc in Microbiology. Could you let me know what type of project she worked on during her final year? Additionally, what skills has she acquired during her postgraduate studies? While eligibility might be determined by her percentage, it's important to note that skills play a significant role in the job market.

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I am glad to hear that she has completed her MSc in Microbiology. Could you let me know what type of project she worked on during her final year? Additionally, what skills has she acquired during her postgraduate studies? While eligibility might be determined by her percentage, it's important to note that skills play a significant role in the job market.

Did she complete an internship in the pharma industry? Nowadays, many candidates claim to have experience, but often lack competency in their subjects.

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I also recommend that she consider an internship at Biocon for six months. They have an academy focused on biotech-related training, and completing this program successfully may lead to a job at Biocon, depending on her performance.

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