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Ramalingam Kalirajan  |11173 Answers  |Ask -

Mutual Funds, Financial Planning Expert - Answered on Nov 07, 2024

Ramalingam Kalirajan has over 23 years of experience in mutual funds and financial planning.
He has an MBA in finance from the University of Madras and is a certified financial planner.
He is the director and chief financial planner at Holistic Investment, a Chennai-based firm that offers financial planning and wealth management advice.... more
Vijay Question by Vijay on Nov 07, 2024Hindi
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Thanks for your response. However, the answer to my very specific question is long, vague and hard to understand with sprinkling of advice on switching to MFs etc. I am an very avid investor in the equity stock market with 30% cagr returns for past 3 years (However, for thr sake of being conservative, I have quited 8% pa returns). I am quite disappointed with the above vague and generic answer to my question, will try to work on my own to get the answers now. Thanks for your time and efforts.

Ans: To directly address your query: with monthly expenses of Rs 15-18 lakh, your current corpus of Rs 6.7 crore would not sustain these expenses in the long term. Even assuming an 8% annual return, this would yield approximately Rs 53.6 lakh per year, which is far below the Rs 1.8-2.16 crore required annually. Without changes in spending or additional funds, maintaining this lifestyle may be challenging over time.
Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment
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Ans: Hello Manoj,

It's great to see that you've been disciplined with your investments and have built a sizable corpus already. To assess if your current investments will help you achieve your goals of 8 crores in the next 10 years, let's take a closer look at your financial situation and goals.

Current Investments:
Mutual Funds: ~30.5 lakhs
Direct stocks: 30k
LIC policies and term insurance: Not considered for investment purposes
Bank FDs: 27 lakhs
PPF: 3 lakhs
Total: ~60.5 lakhs
Monthly SIP investments: ~45k
Now let's analyze your goals:

Children's marriage and education: 2 crores
Buying a home: 2 crores
Retirement life (in 10 years): 4 crores
Total: 8 crores
Assuming an average annual return of 12% on your equity investments, here's a rough projection of your portfolio's growth:

Current investments (60.5 lakhs) in 10 years: ~1.87 crores
Monthly SIPs (45k) in 10 years: ~1.05 crores
Total: ~2.92 crores
Based on this calculation, you would not reach your goal of 8 crores in the next 10 years. However, you can consider making some changes to improve your chances:

Reassess your goals: Consider if your goals are realistic and if there's any flexibility in the amounts or timelines.
Increase your SIP investments: As your salary increases, try to increase your SIP investments to accelerate your portfolio's growth.
Rebalance your portfolio: Regularly review your portfolio to ensure it's aligned with your risk appetite and financial goals. This may involve reducing the number of funds or shifting the allocation between equity and debt.
Monitor fund performance: Keep an eye on the performance of your funds and consider replacing underperforming ones.
Remember that financial planning is an ongoing process, and it's essential to periodically review and adjust your strategy. It's also a good idea to consult with a professional financial advisor to get personalized advice for your specific situation. While it might be challenging to achieve 8 crores within 10 years, these suggestions may help you get closer to your goals.

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Dear Sir, 1. In today's crumbling markets which segment of MF I should adopt for next 5 years. 2. Exactly which funds I should have in my portfolio Thank you for your
Ans: Let’s look at your investment strategy and optimal fund selection over the next five years.

1. Focus on Growth with Balanced Risk
Given current market conditions, aim for funds that balance growth potential and moderate risk. Here’s a structured approach:

Balanced Focus: Consider a mix of funds with equity, debt, and hybrid exposure. Balanced funds provide stability, even during market fluctuations, and allow for steady growth.

Growth-Oriented Segments: Large-cap, multi-cap, and flexi-cap funds can be wise choices in today’s market. Large-caps offer stability with blue-chip companies, while multi-cap and flexi-cap funds give you access to mid-cap and small-cap segments, which are primed for long-term growth.

Debt Allocation: Include some debt funds, especially short-term bond funds, to counterbalance market volatility. Debt funds stabilize your portfolio, providing regular returns during equity downturns.

2. Types of Funds to Include
Here’s a broad breakdown of fund categories that suit a five-year horizon:

Large-Cap Equity Funds: These funds invest primarily in top companies. They are less volatile and typically recover faster after market downturns.

Flexi-Cap Funds: They give fund managers the flexibility to invest across market caps based on market conditions, allowing for growth while managing risk.

Hybrid Funds: Balanced hybrid funds or aggressive hybrid funds (with a 60-70% equity allocation) combine equity and debt to provide growth with a cushion against major losses.

Short-Term Bond Funds: They can help meet near-term goals and improve liquidity while providing steady returns.

3. Suggested Fund Selection Strategy
A Certified Financial Planner can guide you to suitable funds based on your unique risk profile and goals. Here’s a framework to consider:

Actively Managed Equity Funds: Actively managed funds often outperform passive funds in specific sectors. They offer an edge with active risk management and higher returns in a fluctuating market.

Avoid Direct Funds: Consider investing in regular funds with an MFD. Direct funds lack the professional guidance and structured support regular funds offer.

Review Performance and Expense Ratios: Assess each fund’s performance history over five years and expense ratio. Lower expense ratios directly benefit returns, while a strong past performance indicates reliable fund management.

4. Suggested Mutual Fund Portfolio Allocation
To provide a sample allocation strategy:

Equity Allocation:

40% in large-cap and multi-cap funds for stability and growth
20% in flexi-cap funds for exposure across market caps
Debt Allocation:

25% in short-term bond funds for stability
15% in liquid funds or money market funds for easy access
Taxation of Capital Gains on Mutual Funds
Keep in mind the taxation on your mutual fund investments:

Equity Mutual Funds: Long-term capital gains (LTCG) above Rs 1.25 lakh attract a 12.5% tax. Short-term capital gains (STCG) incur a 20% tax rate.

Debt Mutual Funds: Both long-term and short-term gains are taxed according to your income tax slab. This makes debt funds more suitable for stability rather than long-term capital appreciation.

Final Insights
Your five-year plan will benefit from a thoughtful allocation across diversified fund categories. Combining equity growth funds, balanced hybrid funds, and debt funds provides a 360-degree approach, balancing growth with stability.

With consistent monitoring and a balanced mix, your portfolio can weather market fluctuations, helping you achieve sustainable growth in the long term.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP

Chief Financial Planner

www.holisticinvestment.in
https://www.youtube.com/@HolisticInvestment

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