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Ramalingam Kalirajan has over 23 years of experience in mutual funds and financial planning.
He has an MBA in finance from the University of Madras and is a certified financial planner.
He is the director and chief financial planner at Holistic Investment, a Chennai-based firm that offers financial planning and wealth management advice.... more
Jamsheed Question by Jamsheed on Jul 17, 2024Hindi
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Dear Rediff Team, I am writing to express my disappointment regarding the lack of response to my queries submitted on 14th June and 22nd June. The first query was related to my EPF withdrawal, emphasizing its urgency as I need to initiate the process promptly. Despite sending follow-up emails on 4th July, I have not received any assistance or advice on this matter. It is disheartening to experience a lack of communication from your team of experts, especially on critical financial issues like EPF and tax-related queries. I understand the workload your team may have, but it is essential to set clear timelines for responses to avoid customer dependency and frustration. This is not the first time I have faced such issues with your team of experts. In the past, I had to send multiple reminders to receive a response from your experts. If managing the workload is a concern, I urge you to consider either updating customers about any backlog, hiring additional experts, or shutting down your "rediff guru" portals For your reference, I am reiterating my EPF-related query below: [Query Details] I kindly request your prompt attention to this matter and treat it as a priority. As a customer relying on your expertise, I expect timely and accurate responses to resolve my financial concerns efficiently. Hi experts, I have asked this questions 3 weeks back but still no response. plz plz treat this as priority. Request you to kindly respond to this on high priority. My wife worked in ABC company for 6 years and then worked in another company for 4 years. In 2015 she stopped working. Her EPF has accumulated and we are not show if we should withdraw or not. Hence to get clarity we are writing to you. Couple of quick questions - Is the EPF taxable? - Since she has not contributed since 10 years Whats the tax implication. I am confused as some articles say after 3 years there will be not be receiving interest but I have been receiving interest. While withdrawing online it shows just the last company details, in service history it shows both the companies and also the amount accumulated includes both the companies. But while withdrawing it just shows the details of her last worked company. - Also based on the above point since she worked in the last firm for 4 years in the reason for leaving it shows " CESSATION (SHORT SERVICE) - Any other reason" We went to the EPF office and asked the above questions but the lady out there said don't worry no tax since its above 5 and we since the service history shows both companies that means the details of both the companies are merged. We are a little worried as the amount is big and don't want to make any mistake while withdrawing. Please please please respond to this at the earliest as we want to withdraw the money asap. Request you to treat this as priority

Ans: 1. Taxability of EPF

General Rule: EPF withdrawals are tax-free if the employee has completed 5 continuous years of service. In your wife’s case, she worked for 6 years in one company and 4 years in another, totaling 10 years. Therefore, her EPF withdrawal should generally be tax-free.

Break in Service: Since there was no break between the two jobs, and she continued her PF contributions through both companies, this counts as continuous service. This should qualify her for tax-free withdrawal.

2. Interest Accumulation Post-2015

Interest Accumulation: EPF accounts continue to earn interest even if no contributions are made after an employee leaves the job. This interest is taxable if the EPF is withdrawn before 5 years of continuous service. However, in your wife's case, the service period is more than 5 years.

Interest Taxation: Since the total service period exceeds 5 years, the interest accumulated post-2015 should also be tax-free. This aligns with the information provided by the EPF office.

3. Withdrawal Process and Company Details

Single Employer Issue: While withdrawing online, it might show details of only the last company due to how the system processes the data. However, the accumulated amount includes contributions from both companies. The service history reflecting both companies confirms that the EPF accounts have been merged.

Cessation (Short Service): This reason is standard for employees who leave before completing 5 years with the last employer. It shouldn't impact the tax treatment or the withdrawal process, given her overall 10 years of service.

Recommendations and Next Steps
Proceed with Withdrawal: Based on the above points and the information from the EPF office, it seems safe to proceed with the withdrawal. Ensure all details match up when processing the request.

Document Everything: Keep all documentation related to the EPF withdrawal, including service history and communication with the EPF office. This will be useful if any issues arise during the withdrawal process.

Tax Filing: When filing taxes, include the details of the EPF withdrawal to ensure there are no discrepancies. Since it’s tax-free, there should be no additional tax liability.

Final Insights
Your wife’s EPF withdrawal should be tax-free, given her continuous service of 10 years. The interest earned post-2015 should also not be taxed. The process showing only the last employer is normal and shouldn't affect the withdrawal. It's essential to proceed with the withdrawal and keep all records for future reference.

I understand the urgency of this matter and regret the delay in response. I hope this clarification helps you make an informed decision quickly.

Best Regards,

K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,

Chief Financial Planner,

www.holisticinvestment.in
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Ans: I truly appreciate your courage and clarity even in the face of health challenges. With your current financial resources and the need to secure a monthly income of Rs. 70,000, a detailed and careful plan is very much possible.

Let me give you a full 360-degree solution below, step-by-step.

Understanding Your Present Financial Picture
You are 55 years old and have been living with stage 4 cancer for 5 years.

You are still employed and drawing a salary of Rs. 30 lakhs per year.

You have Rs. 75 lakhs in your savings bank account.

You hold Rs. 25 lakhs in shares, with Rs. 12 lakhs in losses.

You have Rs. 12 lakhs in mutual funds.

Rs. 3 lakhs is in your EPF account.

You have no loans or financial commitments.

Your main concern is to receive Rs. 70,000 every month if the job stops.

You are not looking to take risks.

You want regular, reliable income without physical involvement.

Step 1: Emergency Medical and Health Fund
Health comes first. Keep money aside just for medical needs.

This fund should cover two years of your full household and medical costs.

Keep Rs. 15 to 20 lakhs aside for this purpose.

This money should be in ultra-safe places.

Prefer a savings bank account and liquid mutual funds.

This should remain untouched unless truly needed.

This emergency buffer gives peace and avoids panic in tough times.

Step 2: Generate Rs. 70,000 Monthly Income
Rs. 70,000 monthly means Rs. 8.4 lakhs needed per year.

Aim for post-tax cash flow from your investments.

Break your funds into income generation buckets.

Use your Rs. 75 lakhs from savings bank as the core capital.

Avoid keeping the full amount idle in SB account.

Allocate funds into low-risk, stable return instruments.

Prefer investment avenues offering quarterly or monthly payouts.

Choose options where you can withdraw in parts if needed.

Step 3: Structured Investment Allocation
Short-Term Bucket: 1 to 2 Years

Set aside Rs. 18 to 20 lakhs for short-term needs.

Put this money into highly liquid options.

Use only those that protect capital and give fixed income.

These funds will generate stable income for the next two years.

Prefer options offering monthly or quarterly payouts.

This will help replace your salary if job stops.

You don’t need to sell any shares or mutual funds right away.

You get time to think clearly, plan calmly.

Medium-Term Bucket: 3 to 5 Years

Keep around Rs. 25 to 30 lakhs here.

Invest in actively managed hybrid mutual funds.

Choose regular plans through a mutual fund distributor with CFP credentials.

Do not go for direct funds.

Direct plans do not come with personalised guidance.

There is no one to help you rebalance, switch or review.

Regular plans through a Certified Financial Planner offer ongoing support.

With hybrid funds, risk is moderate and returns are better than FDs.

Use SWP (Systematic Withdrawal Plan) to get monthly income.

You can set up SWP of Rs. 40,000 to 50,000 from this bucket.

These funds will last for years while also growing gradually.

Long-Term Bucket: 5+ Years

Keep Rs. 10 to 15 lakhs for the long-term.

This is not for current income, but for inflation beating growth.

Invest in actively managed large cap or balanced advantage funds.

Again, use regular plans with Certified Financial Planner.

These funds will build wealth for later stages.

You can shift gains to the medium bucket after 5 years.

Step 4: Shareholding Review and Action Plan
You have Rs. 25 lakhs in shares.

Out of this, Rs. 12 lakhs are in losses.

Do not sell them in a hurry.

Some may recover if you wait patiently.

First, make a list of all companies and their quality.

Exit poor-quality stocks even at a loss.

Retain good quality stocks with strong future.

If the whole portfolio is confusing, take help from a Certified Financial Planner.

You can harvest the loss now to set off gains later.

Book losses smartly to reduce future capital gains tax.

After cleaning up, move the proceeds to your medium bucket.

Step 5: Mutual Fund Review
You hold Rs. 12 lakhs in mutual funds.

Find out the type of each fund.

If these are equity funds, hold them long-term.

If returns are low or risk is high, shift to hybrid funds.

Avoid investing in index funds.

Index funds cannot protect capital in falling markets.

They simply copy the market blindly.

Actively managed funds are safer.

Professional fund managers take timely actions.

They reduce your risk and improve consistency.

Step 6: EPF Strategy
You have Rs. 3 lakhs in EPF.

EPF earns stable tax-free interest.

Do not withdraw unless it’s urgent.

Keep it as part of your long-term reserve.

Step 7: Monthly Income Setup
Use short-term and medium-term buckets to get income.

Start SWP from mutual funds for Rs. 40,000 monthly.

Use fixed income tools for Rs. 30,000 more.

Review this every year with a Certified Financial Planner.

Adjust amounts if needed based on inflation.

Step 8: Tax Planning and Awareness
Income from mutual funds is taxable.

Long-term capital gains above Rs. 1.25 lakhs taxed at 12.5%.

Short-term gains taxed at 20%.

Debt fund gains taxed as per your slab.

Plan redemptions to avoid tax shocks.

Harvest profits in a planned manner.

Step 9: Avoid These Common Mistakes
Do not invest in real estate.

It is illiquid and needs physical handling.

Do not buy annuities.

They give poor returns and lock your money.

Do not fall for insurance + investment combos.

If you already hold such policies, review them.

Consider surrender if return is poor.

Reinvest the proceeds into mutual funds.

Step 10: Use a Certified Financial Planner
A Certified Financial Planner gives structured and unbiased advice.

They help you with fund selection, SWP setup, rebalancing.

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Their ongoing service is crucial at your life stage.

Choose someone with experience and clear credentials.

Finally
You are in a better financial position than many.

You have no loans, no dependents, and have built good savings.

With a calm and simple plan, you can replace your income safely.

You do not need to take risky steps now.

You have already shown strength by managing your life and job for 5 years.

Now your money should serve you with peace and stability.

Break your capital into buckets.

Get monthly income through safe withdrawals.

Review regularly with a Certified Financial Planner.

Avoid unnecessary complexity or noise.

You deserve a peaceful financial life.

Your health is precious. Let money be your quiet support.

Invest safe. Withdraw smart. Sleep well.

You are already doing well. Just add clarity and structure.

Best Regards,
K. Ramalingam, MBA, CFP,
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www.holisticinvestment.in
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